--- In [email protected],  wrote:
>
> Re : Think about "Alien."
>
>  Yes, I'm a big fan of all the films in that series and Sigourney
Weaver really made the Ripley role her own. But you've missed my point -
because I didn't explain myself very well. The Alien films were scripted
*from the get-go* to highlight the central female lead.

Not true. From the IMDB:
"All of the names of the main characters were changed by Walter Hill
<http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001353/>  and David Giler
<http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0318429/>  during the revision of the
original script by Dan O'Bannon <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0639321/> 
and Ronald Shusett <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0795953/> .  The script
by O'Bannon and Shusett also had a clause indicating that  all of the
characters are "unisex", meaning they could be cast with male  or female
actors. However, Shusett and O'Bannon never thought of  casting Ripley
as a female character."

> 20,000 Leagues was written and then first filmed as an adventure yarn
in an all-male world and worked just fine if you like that kind of
thing. Adding a woman alters the chemistry of the set-up; it doesn't
have to be as crude as you suggest but why meddle with the original
classic story?

Because the producers were cretins who represent the very thing the
Bechdel Test was invented to protest. They were asshole guys who wanted
to add some eye candy to their movie to hopefully up the box office.

>  Re my query: Aha! I see now. The Bechdel Test is for detecting gender
bias. I thought you were just taking a pot shot at films that had
all-male casts.

*Of course* there are cases to be made for all-male casts. And
all-female casts. The Bechdel Test was proposed to point out that the
*men* who run Hollywood have a tendency to throw a few token, often
unnamed women into the cast, just *for* their eye candy factor. What
they do with casting and writing is often shameful, and the idea was to
raise awareness of it.

>  Yes, bias is an issue. (Race bias is probably more prevalent, no?) As
Hollywood producers decide what films get made on the basis of their
expected profit, I assume they think movies that pass the Bechdel Test
will have less mass appeal. Is it the audience that is prejudiced rather
than the film makers?

It is both, but the change has to come from the side of the equation
that *creates* the "role models" onscreen. It's never going to come from
the side of the audience.



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