John, astrology has it's basis on the visual planets and the nodes.
Western astrology started adding the newly discovered planets and making
things up about them. The visual planets and nodes had already
centuries of observation. You can't see Uranus and Neptune with the
naked eye so they're just making things up about them. Same for Pluto.
It's like western astrologers were having problems with their charts
working out because they don't take in account the precession of the
equinox as jyotish does so they adopted these outer planets.
The lunar nodes were observed as points where eclipses take place. They
are a scientific part of astronomy. They have been "personified" as
Rahu and Ketu to make them easier to understand for simple people.
As I've mentioned here before one of the astrologers from India once
pointed out that most Indian astrologers who make good predictions use
very simple techniques. I also pointed out how many westerners trying
to do Jyotish glum onto the "icing" instead of the cake and make lame
predictions.
It may well be just as primitive tribes counted "moons" the evolution of
jyotish may well have been tracking cycles via the other planets. These
cycles may have nothing to do at all with the planets themselves other
than they occur near repeating positions of these planets. So they were
used as "markers" to see if the same kind of events would reoccur.
I met some of these western astrologers at a joint jyotish and western
astrology conference in Lynnwood, Washington in 1996. The jyotish
practitioners were mostly humble and spiritual and the western ones were
about their "image" and like Amway salespeople.
On 01/05/2014 11:59 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:
Bhairitu,
It appears that Joni Patry was originally a western astrologer who
learned jyotish later. So, now she is integrating her western
astrology knowledge with jyotish analysis. There are a few American
astrologers who are doing this type of work, such as David Frawley,
Dennis Harness, Brendan Feeley and Dennis Flaherty.
However, one does get some very interesting insights using western
astrology as taught by Santos Bonacci in his videos called, "Prisca
Theologia". In particular, his points relating to syncretism is very
a propo in understanding the western culture, history and the
Judeo-Christian religions.
Having said that, yes, you're correct in saying that Pluto is no
longer considered a planet. But a tradition has been established in
western astrology to determine its meaning and signification in
context with astrological analysis. Nonetheless, I personally don't
use it as you can get the same results using the 9 grahas recognized
in jyotish.
