Yesterday I read your chapter called "Fun" from Road Trip Mind - felt more 
Energy than I had with any of the other chapters - felt at peace, felt like 
many of the disappointments from my TM days evaporated. Felt sort of like the 
Universe was having a totally content day through me. It was as near to total 
fulfillment as I have ever had. Got up off the couch after a while, went to see 
my daughter who had just gotten back from a church field trip to North Carolina 
- she, her mom and I spent the evening making and eating brownies, watching Dr. 
Who and the Big Bang Theory. As I left to come back home, I felt as good as I 
have ever felt. This isn't really conveying the real experience, but that's as 
close as I can come.
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On Wed, 1/22/14, TurquoiseB <[email protected]> wrote:

 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reversing The Flow -- Writing AS Spiritual 
Experience
 To: [email protected]
 Date: Wednesday, January 22, 2014, 8:21 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       
 Since no one followed up on this
 post, I guess I will, and comment a bit on why I suspect
 they didn't. It's all about "content." 
 
 If you worked in the world of Internet, you'd probably
 have caught wind of a major debate/discussion that's
 been taking place there. Many are concerned over statistics
 that show that the websites that get the most
 "hits" are all about either searching for Other
 People's Content (Google, Yahoo, Baidu, Wikipedia) or
 "aggregating" Other
 People's Content (Upworthy, Jezebel,
 Reddit, Digg). Since the name of the game in making money
 from the Web is number of hits, and since the world really
 doesn't need more search engines, this means that most
 of the "creative" energy of developers tends to
 get channeled into sites that actually display no
 creativity. All that they do is aggregate facts, gossip, and
 news factoids about celebrities or those who want to take
 advantage of this fascination with the ephemeral to become
 celebrities and regurgitate it. The only real
 "creativity" displayed by these sites is in their
 Subject lines, which are carefully crafted to entice people
 to click on them and thus register another "hit."
 
 
 Suffice it to say that there is a "class war"
 going on between these "content disseminators" and
 the people who actually WRITE (or produce music or video),
 and thus become "content creators." To be honest,
 there are some sites like Huffpost, Salon, Slate, and a few
 others that *do* provide a forum for content creators and
 pay them for it, but all you have to do is look at the
 degradation of Huffpost over the last couple of years to
 realize that their content articles are now the minority of
 what they post, and the fluff articles with snappy Subject
 lines are now the majority. And because these sites are
 *businesses*, and trying to make money, it is likely that
 this business model will prevail -- after all, you don't
 have to pay anybody much of anything to redistribute an
 article, and you *do* have to pay someone to create original
 content. 
 
 I'm rapping about this because I think there is a
 parallel to this phenomenon on Internet talk forums. Perhaps
 it's because people have had their attention spans
 shortened from reading so much fluff, perhaps it's
 because they are just caught in their own narcissistic
 business model and trolling for as many "hits" as
 they can rack up, and possibly it's because they really
 can't think of anything original and creative to say.
 Whatever the reason, there is a strong lack of any *original
 content* on these forums. They consist primarily -- like the
 more mainstream content aggregator sites -- of people
 reposting something they found elsewhere, then arguing about
 it. 
 
 Nowhere do you see this more than in the so-called
 "spiritual" talk forums. Pay attention sometime,
 and see for yourself whether I'm correct about this.
 *Most* of what you read on such forums consists of stories
 about spiritual teachers or "saints" that in many
 cases the person writing *never even met*, or regurgitated
 writings from so-called "scriptures" or books
 written about (rarely by) these other teachers. Occasionally
 someone posts a "personal experience story," but
 even then the events being written about tend to be set far
 in the past -- people write about some great experience they
 supposedly had twenty or thirty years ago around some
 supposedly charismatic teacher. 
 
 But almost no one writes about the spiritual experiences
 they have on a daily basis. 
 
 Go figure. It's almost as if most of the people writing
 to these forums don't *HAVE* any here-and-now,
 in-the-present spiritual experiences. Almost as if. 
 
 Why I wrote the post this one is a followup to is that I was
 trying to rap about the "high" that you can get
 from writing creatively, and in a spiritual context. I was
 hoping to maybe inspire others on FFL to do a bit more of
 that kind of writing, if they had it in them. The lack of
 response would seem to indicate that -- sadly -- most folks
 here *don't* have it in them. 
 
 So I'll try again, as is my wont in a bit more
 in-your-face manner. :-)
 
 What's up with having paid your "spiritual
 dues" for twenty to forty years and *having nothing to
 say about your everyday spiritual life*? Doesn't that
 strike you as more than a little SAD? Is the only source of
 inspiration in your life stories from 20-30 years ago, or
 stories that you read in some scripture or book about
 someone you never even *met*? 
 
 As for *arguing* about these things, give me a break. How
 can anyone consider someone who never *met* a certain
 spiritual teacher "authoritative" about what he or
 she taught? That's like believing you can look something
 up on Wikipedia and be an "expert" about it.
 Similarly, how can anyone criticize the few here who *do*
 write creatively about their own experiences from time to
 time when *they never have*. 
 
 The *priorities* on these spiritual forums sometimes dismay
 me. People who tend to be narcissistic and wordy and who
 post a lot get considered to be "authorities,"
 when in reality many of them never met the spiritual
 teachers they're supposedly authorities about. Some of
 them have never had any significant spiritual experiences
 *of their own*, and are posing authoritatively about things
 they've only heard about or read about. Go figure. 
 
 Me, I'd rather read about people's first-hand
 experiences. It's not necessary to
 "understand" these experiences, or even to have
 theories about what they were and what caused them -- the
 writing process is, after all, an avenue for trying to
 figure these things out for oneself. 
 
 But the *lack* of such writing -- and yes, here on Fairfield
 Life -- strikes me as being a strong parallel to the larger
 Internet phenomenon of "content disseminators" vs.
 true "content creators." When posters go years and
 even decades without being able to write even a single post
 about their own spiritual experiences, I am tempted to
 believe that they *haven't ever had any*. 
 
 But I could be wrong about this. If I am, don't try to
 argue with me with more stuck-in-your-head intellectualisms.
 That doesn't "prove" shit. If you want to
 prove me wrong, all you have to do is write about a few of
 your recent personal, subjective spiritual experiences and
 post them to this forum. If you can't, I don't see
 how you can possibly have a problem with me and other people
 assuming you don't have any. 
 
 
 --- In [email protected], "TurquoiseB"
  wrote:
 >
 > Since Michael got me thinking about the writing thang
 again, I thought
 > I'd try to start a thread *about* writing, and hope
 that it doesn't
 > devolve into mere ankle-biting.
 > 
 > Writing is a Class I narcotic.
 > 
 > If you can get into the flow of it, it's a more
 powerful high than any
 > street drug you can name. I've tried many of them
 in my day, so I speak
 > with some experience on this subject. :-)
 > 
 > And the "high" comes -- at least for me --
 from a phenomenon I call
 > "reversing the flow." It's IMO what
 artists do that transforms what they
 > do from mere doing into art.
 > 
 > Most of our lives we spend "taking in" the
 flow of life. We are
 > bombarded by so many sights, sounds, and experiences.
 They flow
 > seemingly from "outside" of us *into* us,
 where we process them mentally
 > and physically and turn them into our perception of
 reality. And we also
 > turn them into our philosophy about life, whether we
 think of it in
 > those terms or not. Each of these experiences *shapes*
 us, *colors* us,
 > and transforms us in many ways.
 > 
 > And ALL of these experiences are still floating around
 in our brains
 > somewhere, ready to be accessed if we can only find the
 key to get back
 > into them. For me, one of the mechanisms that provides
 that key is
 > writing. When I sit down and try to write about a past
 spiritual
 > experience, often magic happens and it becomes a
 present spiritual
 > experience.
 > 
 > When you find the key to these formative spiritual
 experiences in your
 > brain, you can allow them to "come out," and
 express themselves in your
 > writing. And that process feels very much to me like
 "reversing the
 > flow." Instead of "taking in" the
 experiences the world has presented
 > you, you get to "send them out" instead. You
 get to feel the same
 > energies, but now flowing *from* you back out into the
 world they came
 > from. It's a real rush.
 > 
 > Trying to capture the elusiveness of a very high
 alternate reality state
 > of attention in words, it's as if the only way my
 brain can accomplish
 > that is by putting me *back* into that same alternate
 reality state of
 > attention. And the wonderful thing is that it's
 *still there*. By
 > writing about it I can pull that state of attention
 into the present,
 > "put it on" like a suit of clothes, and
 "wear" it again while writing
 > the story.
 > 
 > It's just the damndest thing. It's pretty much
 my favorite thing these
 > days, now that I've kinda weaned myself from
 chasing gurus.
 > 
 > One of the most fun things for me, which you don't
 get to see often here
 > on this forum because I don't post those kinds of
 writing here, is to
 > write characters. What makes that fun is that I do a
 kind of mental
 > trick when I do so. I "put on" the character,
 assume their identity, and
 > "wear" them for the duration of the story or
 scene I'm writing.
 > 
 > That's what made the writing of the two scorpion
 stories in Road Trip
 > Mind so much fun for me. The first one came out fairly
 spontaneously,
 > during that short "time window" after an
 experience where you can still
 > remember it clearly. The event in question had been a
 particularly
 > powerful desert trip with Rama, and I was still reeling
 from it, so much
 > so that I wasn't sure I still had an "I"
 to reel. I had actually made an
 > audio tape of some of the things said on that trip, and
 after
 > transcribing it I knew I wanted to turn it into a
 story, but every
 > attempt to start writing it failed until I hit upon a
 quirky idea.
 > 
 > Why not tell my story from someone else's point of
 view? Tell about the
 > same events, but "as seen by" someone else.
 And so, being me, I chose an
 > Anza-Borrego Desert scorpion as my narrator. I tried to
 imagine what it
 > would be like to be a wise-ass scorpion living in
 Carrizo Gorge, and
 > "put on" his mindset. Then I managed to
 "wear" it while writing the
 > story. The whole story, as it turned out, because it
 all came out in one
 > short burst of binge-writing. And man! was that FUN.
 What a high --
 > being not only someone else, but someone not even of
 your species.
 > 
 > Unfortunately, both in real life and in my story, the
 evening didn't
 > turn out so well for my narrator-scorpion. He got
 smushed. And on some
 > level I missed him, because I'd had so much FUN
 being him. Then, years
 > later, when I was struggling to find a way to *end*
 Road Trip Mind, my
 > Native American girlfriend read the first scorpion
 story and said, "You
 > should write about him again." That idea stuck in
 my head, even though I
 > had killed him off in the first story.
 > 
 > So I just reincarnated him. The last story in RTM is
 written from the
 > point of view of his next incarnation. Talk about FUN!
 I was sitting
 > there in a Santa Fe bar laughing out loud as I got to
 be him again, and
 > that story just came out, again all in one session of
 binge-writing.
 > What a high. I think the waitress thought I was high on
 something.
 > 
 > And I was. I was high on writing.
 > 
 > Which brings me back to the original subject. *Can* we
 think of writing
 > not only as a way to capture and convey spiritual
 experience to others,
 > but as a *spiritual experience in itself*? I think we
 can.
 > 
 > Musicians certainly do it. Painters are famous for
 doing it. Both sets
 > of artists have a long history of talking about the
 experience *of*
 > composing music, or creating a painting. Well, I'm
 just suggesting that
 > writers can, too.
 > 
 > Good spiritual writing (and probably good writing,
 period) is IMO
 > achieved by getting the fuck out of one's own way.
 The more *self*
 > you've got "in the way" when you reverse
 the flow, the less able you are
 > to write effectively. To allow the creative flow *to*
 flow, you've kinda
 > got to drop being a self, and just be.
 > 
 > It sounds like work, but it isn't. It's a real
 high. And unlike drugs,
 > not only is the first one free, all the subsequent ones
 are, too.
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