akasha_108 wrote: >Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>akasha_108 wrote: >> >> > >B: > > > >>No, rein them in. Break them up. They are too large and many >>corporations are really a bunch of smaller groups anymore anyway. >> >> >> > >... > > > >>I would suspect that many a large corporation CEO would sigh a >> >> >relief at having an almost impossible task of managing such a monster >taken away from and in its place a smaller more reasonable one to manage. > >A: >It may be. But thats an opinion. Not substantiated. Regardless, it in >itself is not a justification for breaking up a corporation. > >I generally favor smaller companies -- as most reseach points out - >more innovation, higher growth etc. But Corps, who ere complying with >laws and regulations, are in a better postition to determine that than >you are I. And the scale of some industries is such that "larger" is >more competitive than smaller. > > > >A: > > >>>I am not locked into any thinking. I do favor things which works. >>> >>> >The capital markets (and the corporate structure enables them) are the >drivers of technology, innovation and growth. Not perfect, refinements >always needed. But its sad you can think of no other alternative than >to dissolve corporations and capital markets rather than reform them. > > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Well you are a little wrong there. Since I work in the tech field I >>know that most of the innovation comes from small companies and >>startups. Later they may be gobbled up by a larger firm. >> >> > >You are missing my point. I was refering to capital markets being >the drivers of technology, innovation and growth. The reference to >corps was that it would be hard to have capital markets without >corporations. It did not reference size of corps. I agree, studies >show more innivation comes from smaller companies. Most of which are >still corporations. > > > >>>>Right now their batting >>>>average as far as the environment goes is not too good. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>And this is why they should be dissovled? Again thats a sad POV. >>> >>> > > > >>Again I said nothing about dissolving them. >> >> > >A: >What are you proposing then? Limiting their size? Thus breaking them >up into many parts? In that case, the original form is "dissolved". > > > A: > > >>Its primarily the governements fault, and ultimately the >> >> >>>voters, that such laws, regulations and incentive mechanisms are >>>weaker than optimal. >>> >>> > > > >>>If you want better environmental track records by corporations, tax >>>pollution, enact real vehicle efficiency standards -- including trucks >>>and SUVs, tax gasoline (on the order of $2/gal), enact a BTU and >>>carbon tax (which would affect electical, natural gas and coal >>>production), tax the full lifescyle costs of nuclear mining and >>>waste, etc. In other words, incorporate the costs of pollution into >>>the cost of things that pollute. As economists say, "Internalize >>> >>> >the>externalities". > > > > >>>If the above were done, corporations would have excellent >>> >>> >environtal records. And the overall economy would be more efficient, >cleaner, and growing at a faster rate (allowing more funding for >things like educations and health.) > > > >>I see nothing wrong with that idea. However you would still have to >>watch over the corporate gangsters. Just letting them run wild will >>plunder the planet into death. >> >> > >We are all for law enforcement. And currently corps and CEO are >getting prosecuted to the extent of the current law. If current law >allows for corps to dump uncompensated costs on sociey, laws adn >regulations should be made stronger. Again, the problem is not >primarily a particular business structure or its size, but its a >problem of inadequate legislation and regulation to prevent "cost >dumping" / externalities dumping on society. > > > No offense but you sound like an armchair economist because I know several economists and they don't talk this way. ;-) You sound more like someone who has bought into some kind of libertarian thinking.
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