Ah ha! Now we know why you are agin TM - you have a south facing veranda!!!!
Don't the folks in that place know how to git them some curtains or drapes or
blinds or some such so they won't have to peer at each other through their
windows?
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On Tue, 2/11/14, salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Skelmersdale
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, February 11, 2014, 1:14 PM
Yes I've been there.
What happened was, when I started meditating the TMO was
putting in a bid for an old US air force base on the east
coast. I went along to a few meetings and was impressed at
the ambition and possibilities even though I had yet to
learn of the general trajectory of movement ideas. Basically
they couldn't afford it but they did buy a little corner
and eventually started building a perfect vastu village of
about 30 (?) homes and a few blocks of flats. They plan to
build a peace palace but nature doesn't seem to be
supporting them in raising the money. For some reason.
Ahem...
I haven't
been inside the houses and have heard mixed reviews but they
look really good with double doors and pillars, most people
love them and love being in the community even more. A
friend of mine lives in one of the flats though and I love
it, I'd move in straight away if I had the money. And
that's the problem, they are really expensive, so much
so that you can't get a mortgage because it won't
have that resale value and the banks are worried about
losing out. But most who live there are retired and were
happy to pay the extra to live in vastu.
I
don't like the place, walking around it gives me the
creeps, all the buildings line up on every axis so you can
look through one window and see through about 5 homes
in every direction. It makes me feel like I'm being
watched. I don't like the vastu principle anyway, I
think it's stupid and illogical and the idea of nature
support is a crock of shit. And not having a south facing
garden in England is the dumbest idea of them all. And you
can't put a conservatory on the side as it would break
the symmetry, one of my favourite things is sitting on my
south facing veranda of an evening listening to the rain on
the roof.
You have to be a
true believer to want to live somewhere like this
so it isn't for me but if it makes
them happy I'm happy for them.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...>
wrote:
I have never
heard of this place - you know anything about it Sal? vedic
village in Rendlesham
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On Tue, 2/11/14, salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Skelmersdale
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, February 11, 2014, 8:13 AM
Sounds like someone didn't enjoy their
school days!
I
never lived there but spent a lot of time on courses and
felt both happy and sad for the TM kids. Maybe it's my
prejudice as a southerner from a really nice town near
London but I thought Skem was a seriously depressing place,
a sprawling low-rent estate built to ease overcrowding in
nearby Liverpool.
I
thought the Domies had built a really nice village though,
meditating in the dome was lovely and they had plenty of
activities for adults and kids alike. The people I used to
stay with organised a lot of it and were seriously cool and
respected other peoples beliefs - including my natural
scepticism which was rare in the TMO but they didn't
like the emphasis on Indian stuff in the TMO so maybe they
are part of a minority ;-). A lot of people weren't
like
that though and the emphasis was very much on TM conformity
to the extent that the directors had spies reporting back
to
them about people were talking about outside the
dome.
The
TMO is a very insular organisation, you couldn't move
there and set up a whole food shop for instance as you
would
be in competition with the dome shop and would be
blacklisted (this happened, I was disgusted) But it is a
cult and we shouldn't forget that.
There
are plenty of funny stories about people trying other
techniques and new age beliefs and the response of the TMO
but that's life, people experiment and it isn't
worth getting upset about.
This
is interesting:
The daughter
of my old Geography teacher, Ruth, told me that not long
ago
a couple of members of the British Humanist Association
protested outside the Maharishi school as they were
convinced it was teaching creationism because one of the
subjects is called the Science of Creative Intelligence
(SCI).SCI taught a
mixture of Vedic philosophy and lifestyle tools, but
steered
away from faith and religion of any sort – it was merely
the use of the word "creative" which riled people
up. “They said we were being brainwashed, but once we
spoke to them, they were really cool, they told us about
their practice and it was really interesting. We were going
to take the mick and pretend we were all robots.”I
wouldn't
say they were brainwashed
but they were definitely taught a load of shit. And this
must have been a pretty poor bunch of humanists not to have
spotted that, but then the TMO is always careful to give an
acceptable view of their beliefs, they make their crazy
kool
aid sound almost reasonable. Unified field based education,
my arse!I had so many
arguments about SCI with people I lost count. The idea is
totally without intellectual merit and supporting evidence,
and they teach jyotish there! I think lying to children is
wrong, I couldn't care less what adults choose to
believe but schools should keep it to what is known and why
we think that is the case (it's called science). There
are so many wonders you can teach in the school day, why
waste time with a stupid religious belief from iron age
India, mixed up with crap quantum physics and failed
sociology? It's the reason I never donated to the
school, I just felt sorry for the kids thinking they were
learning something in jyotish that
would be useful at university studying physics.I did envy
the laid
back school lifestyle and "quiet periods"
it's
a stark contrast to the school I went to. The small class
sizes help too and I've met some very cool and well
adjusted kids who went there, some of them rejected the TM
belief system when they got into the wider world and some
didn't. But I do remember a bit of friction between the
meddy kids and the locals, but nothing serious or worse
than
I got from grammar school toff's in my town. It's
part of growing up.All in all, Skem is
a nice place if you like that sort of thing but it's an
ageing community and the youngsters can't wait to leave
as there is nothing to do and the best careers will be
found
away from the depressed north west. Since the vedic village
in Rendlesham got built an awful lot of people have moved
away, but Skem still has a friendly community feel to it
which is all too rare these days.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
<mjackson74@...>
wrote:
This is
a fascinating article on the TM community written by a
woman
who grew up there. It is fascinating to read the article
and
then read the comments left by readers.
Those
of you on FFL who are Brits, whaddya think?
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/liverpools-decaying-yogi-commune
