But Doc, is it conditioning that is preventing unconditional love. Or is it the 
belief that conditioning is preventing unconditional love that is the real 
PS I find David Deida to be a very profound thinker so I take to heart what he 

On Monday, February 24, 2014 8:20 AM, "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" 
<doctordumb...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
Who, then, is doing the unconditional loving, in those cases? It is a very 
strange thing to assert, since it is conditioning which prevents unconditional 
love, in the first place. Perhaps he is merely mentioning the old saw, to not 
wait for full enlightenment, to begin living a full life, and that is always 
good advice.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote:

Thanks, Ann. I tend to come from a perspective of psychological health is good. 
But I know one spritual teacher, David Deida, who though he thinks it's good 
too, also thinks that people can love unconditionally even if they're totally 
screwed up!

On Sunday, February 23, 2014 8:02 PM, "awoelflebater@..." <awoelflebater@...> 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote:

turq, I very much enjoy these statistics and understand what you are saying. 
However, I think the conclusions need to be a bit more nuanced. Because if a 
person thinks he or she is insignificant, then they will think other humans are 
insignificant too. And that often leads to all kinds of problematic behavior. I 
think what's better is a healthy self regard which promotes growth in regard 
for others, indeed for all life.

I like this post, Share. I believe much of what you say here is true.

On Sunday, February 23, 2014 1:55 AM, "turquoiseb@..."
<turquoiseb@...> wrote:

A post for those who claim to value the Truth. Here it is. Now get over your 
puny self. 

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