--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Apples and oranges, Judy.  If Lawson were saying he
> > had *witnessed* true levitation, then we'd be comparing
> > apples to apples.  As far as I remember, he hasn't.  I
> > have.  For me, the phenomenon is part of my subjective
> > experience.  I need no "objective" verification of it,
> > no more than I do for any other subjective experience
> > I've had in my life.  And I have no need to try to 
> > convince anyone it was "true."
> 
> You got rather pissed off, as I recall, when Shemp
> expressed skepticism awhile back.  

You recall incorrectly.  Nothing anyone has *ever* 
said on FFL has ever gotten me "pissed off."  I think
you're projecting again.  :-)

> You may not need
> "objective" verification, but you're very firmly
> attached to the notion that your *subjective*
> experience was something more than fantasy on your
> part.

Nope.  If it was a fantasy, it was a rather persistent
one, but that's always possible.  What amuses me is
the attempt by people such as yourself and Shemp to
*label* it a fantasy because the experiences of some-
one who has witnessed levitation don't jibe with the
theories of someone (yourselves) who have not.  :-)

> > Lawson is talking about a *theoretical* way of verifying 
> > something he has never witnessed.  He's talking about a
> > theoretical way that someone who believes in something
> > could use to convince someone else that the something 
> > is real.  I guess that photos are a nice enough way to 
> > do that,
> 
> You'd need more than photos (or film, for that
> matter) for convincing purposes, obviously, because
> they can be faked.  The point of mentioning photos
> is to define the nature of the performance, i.e., it
> will show up on film, not just in your mind.  For
> convincing, you would have to have "live" performance
> and objective measurements.

NOTHING you could come up with in the realm of "proof"
would EVER convince 40% of the people on the planet
that levitation was real.  Get over it.  THAT is a
fantasy.
 
(got bored with the subject, snipt the rest...you
can project your own reasons onto why...my reason
is that this morning it's bright an sunny and 
unseasonably warm here and entering into *any* 
discussion with you seems like more of a waste
of time than usual...so argue among yourself if
you need an argument, ok? :-)







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