Unless you have talked to her as I have don't post as if you know the facts -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 3/23/14, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to Counter-Revolutionary poison? To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, March 23, 2014, 3:51 PM Here's Lawson's "paranoia-filled post" in its entirety (also quoted at the end of Michael's post below): There's a huge concerted effort (by the massive 26 members) to attempt to sabatoge any and all QUiet Time Schools in San Francisco. Mjackson is apparently a member. https://www.facebook.com/pages/SF-Parents-Against-TM-in-Public-Schools/201123776750702 Wondering how they will respond if the preliminary PTSD research of the effects of TM on war refugees is confirmed by independent researchers. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/377535 "Huge concerted effort (by the massive 26 members)" is obviously Lawson being ironic. And according to Barry, there are even fewer members than Lawson assumes. This post is an excellent example of Barry's delusionary spinning. Lawson's post isn't at all "paranoid," nor does it sound as though he's "afraid." "Disgusted" is more like it. Michael does some of his own spinning as well. Do the kids in fact have to "bow" to a picture of Guru Dev? I didn't when I learned TM. And of course it wasn't just the one woman who got Quiet Time kicked out of the SF schools, contrary to what Michael suggests. I have no idea what Michael's problem is with Lawson using the phrase "Quiet Time schools." Also, in case anybody isn't aware of this (Michael and Barry aren't going to tell you), the kids (and their parents) have a choice of TM or some other "quiet" practice, religious or secular. Nobody was being forced to learn or practice TM. Thanks for filling in the blanks, Michael. I had much the same reaction to Lawson's paranoia-filled post that you seem to have had. He actually sounds *afraid* of the "massive 26 members," which we now know to be one woman and a few other concerned parents and teachers. He's afraid, even though they're "armed" with nothing but the truth about what the mantras mean and what the words in the puja mean. And probably a little truth about Rajas and their gold crowns and long robes and one-million-dollar-a-head "qualifications" for that title. When told these things, especially in the face of the evasions and BS they get from the TM teachers when they confront them with what they've been told, the other parents and the teachers make the right decision US Constitution-wise, and boot the stealth religion out of their schools. If TM were really so great, the TM organization wouldn't have to lie to sell it. From: Michael Jackson <mjackson74@...> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to Counter-Revolutionary poison? Oh, and there is no attempt to "sabotage" any and all Quiet Time schools. Isn't it interesting that you characterize them as "Quiet Time schools" rather than schools where quiet time program has been implemented? I became aware of one woman who started the facebook page you mention. She got a permission slip from her son's school asking her to sign to allow her son to participate in the Quiet Time program. She wanted to know more since there was really no clear description of the program. When she learned it was TM with its Hindu underpinnings, replete with secret mantras, Sanskrit puja and a pic of a Hindu guru for the kids to bow to, she became concerned that the practice was violating the no religion in public school barrier. As she looker further at the TMO's marketing of TM related "programs" she became more alarmed especially after receiving evasive and circular answers from the TM people about her concerns. She then began to lobby to get the program removed from her son's school. At the end of it, the school principal informed her that at their school, the teachers collectively had a say in what extracurricular programs were offered there. So after her speaking to the school board and having other parents express their concerns as well, the teachers themselves voted to give the TMO the boot. The teachers at this school did it, mind you, not the school board or the principle. Subsequently this lady called all the other schools that were listed by the Lynch Foundation as having Quiet Time. Two schools still have it, but at least two others have given the TMO the heave ho. I asked if she knew why they had been kicked out and she told me she was so relieved to hear they were gone she didn't think to ask. But she did say this: "Each time, I heard a pretty emphatic "not here and not anymore". Now this brings up an opportunity for folks to examine what they believe about the effect of TM in the world. On one hand we have the TMO with all its advertising and celebrity endorsements of TM, you have the effect of supposedly thousands of people practicing TMSP in groups. The effects of pundits doing TMSP and yagyas, a supposedly burgeoning number of new TM meditators all of whom are not only doing TM and TMSP and yagyas but hoping and desiring to have TM taught universally. On the other hand, we have one woman with a desire for transparency and her own determination who got TM kicked out of one school added at least 2 other schools where Lynch and the TMO had already been kicked out. What can we surmise about this? Is this one woman loaded with money and paid the school staff to kick the TMO out? No. Is she a particularly powerful rakshasa who did evil magic to get rid of the TMO? Not likely. So how did one determined woman win over a huge moneyed organization backed by celebrities, yagyas and the Marshy Effect? Answer - the TMO is full of it, and the Marshy Effect doesn't exist, nor do yagyas work particularly well. And people say one woman can't make a difference! As to my participation, I merely wished this lady well, told her a little of what I know the TMO is like and directed her to Marshy's own words quoted in the original edition of Hermit in House about mantras being the names of gods and Marshy's likening TM to prayer in his little book the Meditations of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. And that was it. -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 3/23/14, LEnglish5@... <LEnglish5@...> wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to Counter-Revolutionary poison? To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, March 23, 2014, 6:31 AM There's a huge concerted effort (by the massive 26 members) to attempt to sabatoge any and all QUiet Time Schools in San Francisco. Mjackson is apparently a member. https://www.facebook.com/pages/SF-Parents-Against-TM-in-Public-Schools/201123776750702 Wondering how they will respond if the preliminary PTSD research of the effects of TM on war refugees is confirmed by independent researchers. L
