Two things:
Are you joking about Nader saying the Ramayana battles are being fought in our
bodies??? OR is that what he really says?
The reason for the mantra debate is some just can't accept they were hoodwinked
by marshy no matter how good the practice felt - for me self, its another
example of his deceit.
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On Tue, 3/25/14, salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 25, 2014, 3:07 PM
No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant
stupidity? Hmmm, seems like that's the
sort of thing meditation was designed for. Is it too late for a
refund?
I
don't know why you people get so upset at a few
inconvenient facts. I'm an athiest and I loved the puja,
all that bowing and singing and incense, just like some sort
of religious thing but not a religious thing because it was
all in foreign and quite enjoyable anyway, so why would it
matter? Unless you are some sort of religious person who has
what they are allowed to do proscribed by someone else, but
who would admit to that? As the TM teacher said: if you like
ceremonies it's a nice one. If you don't, it's a
short one. And besides, I wanted to get my hands on the
enlightenment and the supernatural powers the book promised,
so I would have sat through a hymn service at the local
church. Almost.
Anyhoo's, I don't remember any god doing
anything for me lately so I conclude that the origin of
mantras is irrelevant, and also about as irrelevant as other
TMO teachings I had plowed into me like the "fact"
that most of classical Indian literature happens to be
present in my body in some, unspecified, way. Which seems to
me about as religious a statement as you could
possibly make.
Coincidentally, you can cure people of any health
problem at all by chanting the relevant section of something
called the ved at the unwell part of the body in another
undoubtably secular (and not cheap) ceremony in order to
redress the balance. According to the latest
"discoveries" of Maharaja Raja Raam (Tony to his
friends) the reason we get ill in the first place is because
the battles of the Ramayana are being fought out in our
bodies. Astounding. Order me an obviously secular yagya
immediately!
But
mantras I don't care about. I mean, obviously
they come from some hindu or pre-hindu teaching, all
this stuff does and all this stuff is ancient. The question
is, why would that be a surprise to
anybody?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emptybill@...>
wrote :
Recently I
have read here on FFL an argument professed by former
TM’ers who stopped
practicing because they claimed they were deceived about the
"meaning" of mantras.
I don't
believe anyone has stopped for that reason. Usually they
quit because they don't think like it or don't think
it has enough reward for the time
invested.
Some people
seem to take to it like ducks to water and become full of
flashy experiences and evangelical zeal, I know I did. Go
figure.....
