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On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:02 AM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
wrote:
 
  
Recently I
have read here on FFL an argument professed by former TM’ers who stopped
practicing because they claimed they were deceived about the
"meaning" of mantras. 
Their
fundamental claim is that a mantra is the name of a Hindu god. The claim is that
a mantra, by definition, encapsulates a method for worshiping a Hindu god but
that this fact is withheld from practitioners. Within the domain of this
argument, these claimants will often quote some text from a Hindu Tantra. These
quotes are passages usually assigning a particular deity to a particular mantra
and sometimes even assigning a set of deities to each of the Sanskrit letters
composing the written forms of the mantra’s sound. This textual assignment is 
often
done quite haphazardly but occasionally is done in the Vedic format of
rishi-deva-chhanda.
Along with
the quoted Tantric text is sometimes a quoted statement by MMY, declaring that
a mantra is a "sound whose effect is known". This argument quotes the
TMO claim that a mantra is used in TM for the beneficial effects it produces in
causing the spontaneous refinement of perception. This explanation is then
paraded as an example of shameful exploitation of Western ignorance of the
"Hindu" foundation of TM and of any other Indian meditation that does
not confess itself as a form of "Hindu devotionalism". This
devotionalist criticism is further paraded around by pointing to various Indian
swamis and cross-eyed yogis who make these claims and arguments themselves.
Here are some
considerations about these claims:
SBS taught
in India. MMY began teaching in India before coming to the West. They both
taught within the context of the Indian Hindu cultural model. Although they
taught in India, where there are many Muslims, they did not present their
teaching within a Muslim cultural model. Although Buddhism is from India and
many Indians consider Buddha as one of their own, neither SBS nor MMY taught
within a Buddhist cultural model. Rather, they taught within the cultural
context of their listeners.
After coming
to the West, MMY continued speaking and teaching within the Indian cultural
model - for a while. It was the teaching model established by Vivekananda and
Paramahansa Yogananda – partly religious, partly philosophical and partly
yogic. However, the cultural context of this form of teachings was the 19th and 
20th century paradigm of Western Modernity. 
When MMY
realized the limitations brought by this model and the limitations of religious
language here in the West he took a left turn. That divergence left some of his
teachers behind - Charlie Lutts being an example.
This is one
reason that pointing to early religious language by MMY or SBS is an inaccurate
over-simplification. 
As far as
the “it is all a deceit” claimants, the two groups that are the most antagonist
and strident are the materialists and the religionists. Materialists claim
mantras are the mumbo formulas of hindoo gods and that the concept of gods/god
is a false idea propounded by power brokers to enslave the masses. This is a
truncated Marxist view popular among the half-educated.
Contrary to
this, the fundamentalist religions claim that mantras are secret demonic traps
devised to enslave us to hindoo devils. This is the view of true-believing
adherents of the Abrahamic religions – Jews, Christians and Muslims. This is
not some fundamentalist diatribe from TV evangelicals. This was the original
view of Christians from the second century C.E. forward and was used as an 
ideological
propellant for killing polytheists after Constantine’s ascent to Roman
power.    
What is
obvious is that both groups are unable to rationally consider the facts because
they are ideologues entrenched in a priori conclusions.  One example of this is 
a clear demarcation
about the difference between yoga and religion. Materialists dismiss such an
idea because yoga historically emerged within in a Hindu cultural context.
Semitic monotheists condemn this idea for the same reason. 
If we
consider the role of yoga, it is apparent that most meditating Westerners are
functionally ignorant about the nature, range, depth and complexity of yoga
lineages - whether Vedic, Hindu, Buddhist or Jain. Most of them do not know the
difference between Vedic, Puranic and Tantric lineages of practice. They also
do not understand how these three streams developed and then intertwined into
Hindu temple rites. They don't know vidhi from vedi.*
(*vidhi is a
specific method of puja. Vedi is the altar used in yajña. )
Even more
surprising, most swamis and imported "yogis" are not Pandits, Indologists,
or Sanskritists. Very few are formally educated in the yoga traditions of the
Indian subcontinent. Most are only trained in asana, pranayam and japa.  A 
little bhakti here, a few Upanishad
citations there and "om tat sat" - I’m a guru.
Faced with
this, most of us Westerners who meditate are at a disadvantage when presented
with claims that we are not educated to conceptualize within an informed view. 
To
counter-point this misunderstanding, I am providing a short but authoritative
quotation from an impeccable Yogic source about the difference between mantra
practice in both yogic and devotional sadhana practice.  
 Baba Hari Dass(the
upa-guru of Ram Dass)
On the
difference between Mantra practice and Japa practice.
1.      Mantra
is the repetition of sounds or words which have power due to the vibration
of the sound itself.
2.     Japa
is the rhythmic repetition of a name of God.
 It (Japa) consists of
automatic Pranayama, concentration and meditation. The main idea in doing Japa
is to make the mind thoughtless. Then automatically body consciousness
disappears. If your body consciousness disappears, it means your sadhana is
going well. The body is the medium of sadhana and the body is the hindrance in
sadhana. Japa is a formal method of worshipping God. It
should be done privately and preferably with a mala, or rosary.
 Silence
Speaks: from the chalkboard of Baba Hari Dass, 1977 (my bolding).
*vidhi is a
specific method of puja. Vedi is the altar used in yajna. 
Baba Hari Dass is an impeccable yogin possessed of vairagya and
dispossessed of any agenda. He is the “yogin’s yogin”. My point is to call
attention to an alternate authoritative source  - someone able to explain the 
distinction between mantra-dhyana and mantra-japa.
The key is to recognize that a mantra can be used in meditation simply for its
sound value, without any reference to meaning. While this may seem over-obvious
to TM and Sahaj Samadhi meditators, this is what demarcates it from ordinary
language. 
 
Used in this
way, mantric sound is part of the human sensorium but is self-generated in the
same way that speech is. This kind of bare sensoria is non-conceptual and does
not require analysis to be perceived. Bija mantras are yogic tools for just
this type of non-conceptual (nirvikalpa) direct cognition.
 
The reality is that MMY told us the truth about mantras and their
proper yogic use in TM. The cultural artifact that these critics use as proof
is that Indians use mantras for Japa to a hindu deity. This is just a datum of
the Indian mind set. No self-respecting “Hindu” conducts their life without a
least 20-30 mantras on-hand at all times (except for Indian communists).
TM/Sahaj Samadhi meditators do not engage in such a practice, unless they
choose to engage in bhakti to a particular deva. Such a practice then becomes a
mode of worship rather than meditation. 
 
When someone claims that TM meditation is by definition Hindu
worship then they are either misinformed, ignorant of basic definitions or just
simple-minded ideologues. 
 

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