Ok, Mike I can see how someone, especially a parent, could be concerned for their child's welfare. But I think peer pressure is a sine qua non of the teen years. So the mom might be fighting many a battle in that regard.
It also brings up for me another issue. Your right to swing your arm ends where my nose begins. And now we even prohibit smokers from smoking near outside entrances to buildings! How far do you think we should go with our laws to deal with what the mom was concerned with: exposure to TM? On Monday, March 24, 2014 5:32 PM, Mike Dixon <[email protected]> wrote: Let's try this again. I don't think of TM as a religion, TM It's self. I accept Maharishi at his word when he originally taught the technique. Mantras(bijas) are not names or nick names of gods but are sounds, who's effects are known. Those known effects can be considered by Hindus as *blessings* granted by a deity or by someone else as a stimulation of a learning center in the brain. But when you start wrapping it all up in something like the puja and requiring that it be a part of the learning process, it's easy to see why some would see it as a religious practice of Hindus. Add on top of that, veda this and veda that and yagya, jyotish, celebacy , monastic orders , Mother Divine, sidhis(what others would call miracles), com'on.... what the hell is a normal person expected to believe? The mother not only didn't want her kid doing TM but didn't want him/her exposed to it and influenced by fellow students who might apply pier pressure. If she were more the *evangelical* type, she might be resentful that her religion can't be taught in a like manner and if her's can't, then neither can yours. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. On Monday, March 24, 2014 1:30 PM, Share Long <[email protected]> wrote: Mike is this what you're replying to: As to the religion question, I ask: if TM is really a religion, then why do many long term TMers continue to attend Mass and services and synagogue? Go figure! On Monday, March 24, 2014 2:39 PM, Mike Dixon <[email protected]> wrote: Share, when the student is ready, the master will appear, but not until then. Maharishi described the classical God Consciousness experience as when a devotee's deity reveals Himself to the devotee. The devotee becomes terribly confused afterwards, not knowing who to bow to first, his God or his master that showed him his God. We've had the master because we were ready. We need to be patient for others to become ready. On Monday, March 24, 2014 11:35 AM, Richard J. Williams <[email protected]> wrote: On 3/24/2014 11:57 AM, [email protected] wrote: Just a reminder--even if the Quiet Time program had remained in her son's school, her son wouldn't have been required to learn TM. So there was more to what she did than just "looking out for her son."> It sort of looks like MJ is posting some fibs. > > > >well its all in how you look at it - I don't view her actions as knee jerk - >she was looking out for her son, who told her, by the way, "If I want to join >a cult, I'll start my own." This was after he had looked into the TMO himself.
