--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Oct 20, 2005, at 6:27 PM, uns_tressor wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> On Oct 20, 2005, at 2:59 PM, sparaig wrote: > >> > >>> --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Oct 19, 2005, at 10:14 PM, authfriend wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> For the record, although Vaj mentions TM as if it > >>>>> were an example of what he goes on to describe, > >>>>> that description in fact has nothing to do with > >>>>> TM in terms of how it is practiced or the theory > >>>>> Maharishi teaches. > >>>>> > >>>> You obviously missed the point. TM is a form a Shamatha. Of the > >>>> nine > >>>> or so levels of Shamatha, TM just works with the beginning stages. > >>>> Regardless, it is a form of Shamatha. > >>>> > >>> OF course, you're familiar with all possible outcomes of TM > >>> practice so > >>> you can assert this. You're familiar with meditation research on all > >>> forms of meditation, etc. > >>> > >> > >> Well I'm trained in all the stages of meditation, in theory and > >> practice--and that includes the side effects, the benefits and the > >> pitfalls. It does help to have the "big picture" to be blunt and > >> TMer's are largely in the dark in this regard. It is different for > >> different people--for example some people, probably due to purvapunya > >> (past life experience), will gain stability with only a little > >> impetus, even with TM--that is--they will transcend the entire > >> session. But that is rare IME. > >> > > > > Get it off your chest, Vaj. Why don't you tell us > > JUST THE ONCE what it is that you're trying to sell. > > Uns. > > > > Nothing. > > TM conditioning much? >
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