--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > <snip> > > > Who takes responsibility and who creates and recreates and who is > > > fully present, etc? > > > > Anyone who chooses to. If you choose to, its you. If I choose to, > > its me. And please, let's not indulge in a discussion about no self > > present in enlightenment; for all *practical* purposes, I am > > present; you are present; we are present. > > Yay. I wish we could make this a *rule*: Don't > make a higher-order comment about a lower-order > statement UNLESS you make it explicit that you are > doing so and explain what point you want to make > thereby. > > I assume Lawson has a reason for pointing to no-self > here, but it would be a lot more helpful if he > explained it. > > Too often folks use higher-order comments as a way to > avoid addressing a lower-order statement, and all it > does is introduce confusion and short-circuit the > discussion. > > If you have a *reason* for short-circuiting the > discussion in this way, fine, there are occasions > when it's appropriate, IMHO. But *make a case for > doing it*. Don't just use it as a thought-stopper.
P.S.: Lawson, I'm not saying you asked about no-self as a thought-stopper. As I said, I assume you did have a good reason. I'm really just applauding Jim's comment in general terms. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/