Edg, regarding natural phenomena, these days some systems use the sound of 
natural water, like the ocean, a stream or rain, to quiet the brain. I think 
visual stimuli tend to be create more excitation in the brain. My former SO 
felt he could transcend on the sense of taste. 


On Sunday, April 27, 2014 9:05 AM, Duveyoung <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 
  
Seems to me placing the attention on a natural phenomenon as one would attend 
the mantra has to be at least as calming as TM.  Dunno.  Just wondering these 
days about how ancient meditation has to be.

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