How can that be if he was enlightened? And what part of my erudite writing do you feel is spin doctored? -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 4/27/14, lengli...@cox.net <lengli...@cox.net> wrote:
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brahmachari Girish Varma Ji is to be praised To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, April 27, 2014, 4:03 PM The most likely cause of the deaths is that Ayurveda, Maharishi or otherwise, isn't as perfect as Maharishi thought it was. The rest is spin-doctoring on your part. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote : Refined mercury is not used in every single ayurvedic formula for every ailment under the sun. Given the fact that lots of terminally ill patients with various kinds of ailments went to this clinic, it is unlikely that every formula used called for mercury and as you know ayurveda doesn't just rely on herbal formulas - there are a lot of techniques that traditional ayurved uses that don't involve herbs at all such as oil pulling routines. The PR that was always done on Maharishi Ayurveda since its first unveiling in 1986 was that Marshy was able, with his enlightened awareness to "cognize the full value of natural law" in the now fragmented and incomplete practice of ayurveda, thus ayurveda was "re-enlivened in terms of its fundamental principles by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in collaboration with leading Ayurvedic physicians and restored to its completeness." I heard Bevan say many a time at MIU that Marshy's enlightened awareness enabled him to cognize all the various deep and subtle aspects of ayurveda that had been missing for centuries in India and thus ahd restored ayurveda to its fullness. If that were the case, it seems clear that it would be impossible to for there to be a lack of knowledge or technique on how to refine the mercury to the proper level. Also given the fact that in India they still use heavy metals that have been refined in various ayurvedic formulas with no apparent ill effect and the fact that ayurvedic big shots like Balraj Maharshi, Dwivedi and especially Triguna were "working" with Marshy, seems impossible that such lack of technique could exist, although in Triguna's case everyone I ever heard from who had a consultation with him said it was a blast to see him especially in India where his followers would run around like Keystone cops doing his bidding cause he was so famous, yet none of them were ever cured of their ailments by his herbal prescriptions. The more likely cause of these folks deaths are that Marshy didn't know a damn thing about ayurveda and simply used it as another spring board to financial comfort for Marshy and family. The fact that he used human lives in his hunt for fame and comfort is I am sure incidental to Indian sensibilities but seems rather cavalier to us in the West. -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 4/27/14, nablusoss1008 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brahmachari Girish Varma Ji is to be praised To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, April 27, 2014, 12:16 PM Ayurved has some very powerful tools for boosting the immunesystem and for rejuvenation. Triguna was behind the efforts for terminally ill patients so the question is why it wasn't more successful. From what I've heard it boils down to the failure in purifying mercury which is vital in many of the recipy's. Maharishi through millions on this particular project and had top Vaidyas working on this since early 80's in Seelisberg. The day that is safely possible Ayurveda will revamp medicine. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <LEnglish5@...> wrote : You know as much as I do: they built this massive 5-star facility that was The Raj on steroids, and invited terminal patients from all over the world to come and get cured. They died. Virtually all of them died. Not surprising since only the absolute, most hopeless cases were supposed to come in the first place as their last hope. It was meant to show the utter superiority of Maharishi Ayurveda Done Right™ to the World. And... They died. Virtually all of them died. End of story. Maharishi told the Movement to just "walk away" from such a place of death and they did. The place is now just ruins. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote : I have never heard this story of the failure of TM ayurveda - got any details? -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 4/26/14, LEnglish5@... <LEnglish5@...> wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brahmachari Girish Varma Ji is to be praised To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, April 26, 2014, 5:15 PM I don't speak any Indian language, but none of the English reports I have seen (including the links below) say that Girish has that kind of wealth, only that he is part of a 12-member committee that has control of that wealth (12,000 acres). And of course, if you actually look at the figures, the estimates of how much the land is worth is obviously exaggerated: the largest single item is the old Maharishi Ayurveda complex which now lies in utter disrepair. In its hey-day, it was meant to be The Raj on a grand scale: a complex of hospitals and hostels with 3200 5-star hotel rooms meant to provide an absolutely nourishing environment for those unfortunate people who were deemed "terminal" by Western medicine but could be saved due to the miraculous superiority of Ayurvedic treatments. When the masses of terminally ill patients did what Western treatment said would happened, and died by the thousands, Maharishi told the TM movement to "walk away" from the halls of death (or words to that effect) and the complex fell into complete ruin. It ain't worth $1.5 billion and there's no way it will ever be because it wasn't built as a 5-star *resort* but as a 5-star *hospital* and there's no way 3200 tourists at-a-time are going to want to pay 5-star prices to say in that particular region for any length of time. Without the promised miracle cures of Ayurveda, it is a completely worthless venture. 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