Agreed that greed kills.  Sustainable development can be 
done if taxes are based on 'consumption of resources' and 
not income.  Salaries and wages paid to employees should not 
be treated as consumption, but as general expenses (created 
wealth).

The salaries and wage differentials across hierarchy in 
corporations can be flattened and narrowed down by strict 
regulations.  What's stopping them from doing that?

It's not enough, if you just give state-funding to political 
parties.  The system should be transparent.  Any system that 
is opaque becomes a ground for corruption.  Darkness covers 
a multitude of sins.  Shine the light and the system will  
cleanse itself.


--- Bhairitu <noozguru@...> wrote :

 You're confusing capitalism with free enterprise.  Capitalism itself generates 
entropy and chaos.  Just look at what it has done to this country now.  You 
really want to live in a country of poor people?  Some correction needs to be 
done to reign in the oligarchs and plutocrats.  Greed kills.
 
 On 04/29/2014 06:02 AM, jedi_spock@... mailto:jedi_spock@... wrote:


Capitalism is the only system that can incentivize and 
 motivate people.  Again, only capitalism drives innovation 
 and creativity, enables people to adapt to the everchanging 
 conditions.  It also generates wealth.
 
 By failing to emphasize incentives, socialism is a theory 
 inconsistent with human nature and is therefore doomed to 
 fail. Socialism is based on the theory that incentives don't 
 matter! 
 
 "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of 
 ignorance, and gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the 
 equal sharing of misery"...~ Winston Churchill 
 
 Nature is balanced between 'meritocracy and egalitarianism.'
 
 Nature is balanced between the 'individual and collective.'
 
 Nature is balanced between 'competition and cooperation.'
 
 Nature is balanced between 'chaos and order.'
 
 Nature is balanced between 'determinism and randomness.'
 
 It's important to understand the paradoxes in nature. 
 Cooperation is the other side of Competition.  Both are two 
 sides of the same Darwinian coin.  Single cell organisms 
 cooperated to evolve into multi-cellular organisms.
 
 On contrary to popular thinking, microbes are extremely 
 social creatures.  The constantly communicate with each 
 other with chemical signals.  Completely unrelated bacteria 
 come together and work together on variety of things, like 
 decomposing organic matter, breaking down food in human gut, 
 etc etc.
 
 Lateral gene tranfer is common among microbes.  Completely 
 unrelated bacteria exchange genetic material to make 
 themselves more resilent to harsh environments.

 
 > --- Sparaig <LEnglish5@...> mailto:LEnglish5@... wrote :
 
> The problem with Bernie Sanders (and I respect him highly) is that he is a 
> "Socialist" in both name and attitude. If you want the Right Wing to come out 
> in droves in the next election, put a self-described Socialist (note 
> capital-S) on the Democratic ticket. 
 > http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9804E2DB1030F932A15752C0A9619C8B63&pagewanted=all
 >  
 > http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9804E2DB1030F932A15752C0A9619C8B63&pagewanted=all

 

> L

 
 > > --- Bhairitu <noozguru@...> mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 > > Biden and Clinton are establishment candidates.  Nothing will change if 
 > > elected.  There is a move to get Sanders to change from Independent to 
 > > Democrat since he has said he is willing to run.   Of course if he did get 
 > > as far as the WH the first day there would be a "come to Jesus" session 
 > > with him.  I'm very cynical about this country because it has run it's 
 > > course with capitalism which has  been exploited to the point absurdity.  
 > > We now live in a plutocracy.
 
 
 > > > Do Presidents make any difference?  They're mainly just car salesmen for 
 > > > the same corporate elite.  How about a Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth 
 > > > Warren ticket?  That might actually sell well to the millennials who you 
 > > > have to consider.
 
 
 


 


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