--- In [email protected], cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
<snip>
> When non-Indian people imitate the pronuncitation
> of people from India, I think the retroflex "t"
> and "n" are the most useful "tools" to get that effect.
> You just pronounce the "normal" n-sound or t-sound
> with the tip of your tongue slightly curved back 
> towards the palate. 
> Try for instance to pronounce "time" like that and
> I think you'll get the typical Indian pronuncitation.

By golly, you're right!

(I still don't understand your original
question, but never mind...)

<snip>
> > It's odd how difficult it is to describe what the
> > tongue does without a specialized terminology!
> 
> I think it's more due to my lack of vocabulary, and stuff.

Well, I meant me, actually.  It's so instinctive
it's hard for me even to become *aware* of it
enough to put it into words.






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