--In [email protected], <punditster@...> wrote : On 5/1/2014 3:02 PM, curtisdeltablues@... mailto:curtisdeltablues@... wrote: > I am reading his book on free will right now. Very thought provoking. > Someone needs to tell Barry that Harris says the idea of free will is incoherent. Humans are not free and no sense can be given to the concept that they might be. Go figure.
C: I believe that Barry and Sam would agree on the reality of our felt sense of free will. The question has to do with whether or not the data of all of our unconscious process support that POV as a realistic possibility. And it doesn't matter if the unconscious influences are karma from past lives or just unconscious neural process that can be measured before we are consciously aware of them, they still undermine our felt sense upon reflection. Harris' book has some other POVs that he does not ascribe to where the person expands their sense of what we are to include those unconscious influences so that they can all go under the umbrella of "me" making a decision. I am not sure where I fall yet, I may have to read some others to see if their POV appeals to me more than Harris'. I suspect it is the pragmatic POV that most appeals to Barry on this topic but I could be wrong. In either case we all must act as if we have free will, we have no other choice! --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com http://www.avast.com
