Different traditions say different things. Do you REALLY think that MMY made up his discussion of bliss and so on? They are very much taken from his guru's expositions of the same, as far as I know, using updated terminology and geared for talking to Westerners.
L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote : And I find int interesting that some traditions associate bliss w/ lower astral realms when Marshy put such emphasis on the bliss of the Absolute and all that jazz -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 5/2/14, TurquoiseBee <turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@...> wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Facilitating a Future and the New TM Movement: To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"; <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Date: Friday, May 2, 2014, 3:12 PM From: Michael Jackson <mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@...> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 2, 2014 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Facilitating a Future and the New TM Movement: I'd like to know how Curtis does this dive deep for samadhi meditation, I have been doing some shikantaza meditation, but I just get vibbed with the bliss I feel after a little while and then get up and go do something else. The bliss starts after about one minute so its like, ok I'm here now WTF do I do? Bliss gets tiresome after a while I find. Any guidance on that Curtis? I'm not Curtis, but I'll comment. I consider "bliss" almost as overrated and overvalued as relying on subjective experience as one's standard for what constitutes truth or reality or "providing value." In many spiritual traditions "bliss" is considered a TRAP, an illusory state that many people never get past. In occult terms, its energy is associated with the lower astral planes. Many traditions seek to "transcend bliss" and get to something more interesting.
