Bhairitu, 

 Yes, there are some people who think that the universe is a machine from the 
Big Bang to the end of the universe.  The mechanisms of how this whole thing 
came about and how it will end are still being debated by various theories and 
actual scientific data.
 

 It appears to me that the argument for a universe based on consciousness is 
fairly strong one.   As I've mentioned here fairly often, it takes 
Consciousness to conceive and create space and time.  Without it, how is it 
possible for a universe to exist?
 

 Can a quantum fluctuation of the tiniest particle create space and time?  I 
don't think so.  But some of the popular physicists today, like Hawking and 
Krauss, are forced to make this conclusion because they're looking for a 
quantifiable matter or force which would explain the Big Bang.  By doing so, 
they come up with an absurd conclusion that the universe created itself.  Is 
that logical? 
 

 

 

 
 

---In [email protected], <noozguru@...> wrote :

 Computers are basically calculators on steroids.  They calculate.  Humans are 
pattern learning and matching machines.  You can program a computer to be a 
pattern learning and matching machine too.  For all we know they can be 
programmed to feel to and have some consciousness.  I also see the entire 
universe as one big machine based on patterning.  Free will?  Nice to believe 
in if that is your destiny. :-D 
 
 On 05/05/2014 04:46 AM, jedi_spock@... mailto:jedi_spock@... wrote:
 
   
 
 
 Artificial Intelligence or machine intelligence is basicaly 
 linear in nature.  It uses boolean logic at every step. It 
 might be fast, but still linear and lacks certain qualities 
 of biological or natural intelligence.
 
 Biological intelligence or human intelligence is non-linear 
 in nature.  Pressures of survival stimulated by sensations 
 of 'pleasure and pain', emotions of 'fear and anger', over 
 millions or years created a non-linear brain.
 
 The three parts of the brain, reptailian, mammalian and 
 human parts of the brain are actually three brains, operating 
 and having their own sense of time and space.
 
 It is doubtful if AI would would be like human intelligence, 
 but we can theoriticaly do what happened in the TV series 
 'Fringe' by increasing the analytical intelligence in humans 
 to override primitive parts of the brain.
 
 
 > ---  <jr_esq@...> mailto:jr_esq@... wrote :
 
 > Stephen Hawking thinks so, but adds a warning.
 
 >  
 > http://blogs.marketwatch.com/themargin/2014/05/04/stephen-hawking-warns-of-our-best-and-maybe-last-creation/
 >  
 > http://blogs.marketwatch.com/themargin/2014/05/04/stephen-hawking-warns-of-our-best-and-maybe-last-creation/
 
 
 
 



 



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