Ah, the bottom line. What Lawson believes about Robin is what he believes about himself -- that terrible things happen to people who stop meditating regularly.
Welcome to the belief system created by Maharishi called "TM as addiction." :-) ________________________________ From: "lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 2, 2014 10:17 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story I personally think that Robin went over teh edge as soon as he stopped meditating regularly. Why? Because Maharishi said over and over again, that the time when enlightenment dawns is the time of greatest unstressing and the time when regularity of practice is most vital. Robin apparently ignored that part of MMY's teachign completely: the more enlightened he considered himself, the less he bothered to meditate, or such is my impression. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote : Robin himself acknowledges he went over the edge toward the end of his decade of purported enlightenment. Whether he was "more than a bit unbalanced" up to that point is a different question, one that "most people" aren't in a position to know. (Some people on FFL think you're more than a bit unbalanced, after all.) In his heyday, Robin had a lot of appeal, as Ann points out. Did you read the file I cited? I should think you'd find it of interest, given what he says about the TMO in that Ledger ad. You're always looking for data, and as I said, he agreed with your view of the TMO in many respects. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote : but most people know Robin was more than a bit unbalanced ________________________________ From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 2, 2014 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story The interesting thing, Michael, is that Robin had many of the same complaints about the TMO that you do. So in that sense you're right. But note again, please, that Robin wasn't challenging Maharishi's teaching, to the contrary. He believed in it utterly, was totally committed to it. He thought the TMO was corrupting it. If you want to know what Robin was on about, rather than just making ill-informed guesses, in the FFL Files section, under "Miscellaneous Writings," is a file called "RWC ledger 83.pdf," which is the reproduction of an ad Robin had placed in the Ledger when he was there in 1983 explaining his position. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote : It is only my opinion, but I think the number of people who were willing to go see Robin and to become part of his group is indicative of the shortcomings of both Marshy and his TMO - in other words, if either of them had been what they had claimed to be, no one would have looked twice at Robin. ________________________________ From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 2, 2014 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little MIU Story ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote : Wowzer. I don't think that's the issue Michael, this seeing of other teachers. That was not the problem the primary problem with RWC. Yes, if you became a follower, evidently there were consequences. But the situation there, as I understand it, was a frontal assault on the organization to usurp the authority of the existing teacher You had someone who felt he had a mandate to move the organization in a different direction. As I recall it, Robin wasn't out to set himself up as the Movement head or leader or anything else. He simply didn't agree with some things that were happening. (Because I was never interested in the TM org or the politics of it all and had never had aspirations to become a teacher the details of this were not important to me other than I liked his chuztpah and was attracted to the interesting vibe of the thing. And I wanted to see if I could tell if he was enlightened or not, get a chance to check out this outspoken guy.) He wanted to have a voice and let people know this and so a group formed around him once he made the move to FF and started giving seminars. Before that he simply lived in Victoria surrounded by a few Canadian TM teachers who still meditated, who took being a TM teacher seriously and who revered MMY but who also believed Robin to be enlightened and able to "help" them reach enlightenment by separating and recognizing the demonic from the divine within themselves. He became "enlightened" in 1976 and moved to FF in 1982 so there was a lot of time where there was simply a close-knit group of friends hanging out, eating meals together and getting the hell confronted out of them. It was around 1983 I believe, that the World Teacher Seminar emerged but he never had designs on taking over the TM Movement, I'm not sure he felt there was much hope for it by that time but he still loved MMY. Looky here. That's exactly what SSRS did. Was there a problem? No. Why? Because he set up a separate organization and made his pitch in a different venue. Did it work? Yes, many people went into his camp. Did it elicit the kind of reaction from the TMO that the RWC did? Not in the slightest. Does that indicate to you that the two situations were different? Probably not. To anyone else who doesn't have a stick up their butt about the TMO? Yes.
