--- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yet that "condition" of enlightenment, for lack of a > better concept, is "outside" of any story. I see one > of the great "shocks" to the mind in enlightenment is > the utter "emptiness" of consciousness. It implies > nothing in the relative either good or bad. There is > no "story" of enlightenment. Stories are for the mind > only in avidya to entertain itself and to stay > attached to a discourse of enlightenment-something > that has nothing to do with enlightenment! Like > someone fantasizing what it will be like to be > enlightened. It has nothing to do with enlightenment > and actually "prevents" enlightenment. > **** Yes the "condition" of enlightenment is not a concept or a story. But we humans have the capacity through language symbolically describe different conditions, phenomenon and processes. It is a wonderful tool as long as we don't mix symbolic representation with the real phenomenon. As we communicate a lot through this symbolic representation called language, we should try to define the concepts we use as precisely as possible. The word enlightenment is an important symbolic representation, but it should be defined accurately each time somebody uses it. Different people mean quite different things by that concept. And that creates unnecessary confusion and arguing. Theories or fables or stories are not just something to entertain oneself with. They have an important role in our making sense of our lived reality and the universe. Problematic they become if you consider them as absolute truth, and even more so if you get punished when testing or questioning those theories. Kali-juga is a fable I have very difficult to relate to at all. I cannot see any useful sense in it. Irmeli ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
