Empty writes: "TM teachers are not gurus. However, as trained instructors in 
the lineage teachings and techniques, TM teachers are valid exponents and 
initiators."   Thanks, I appreciate this is very carefully said.  That is how 
Maharishi spoke of us too.  Exponents of Reality and Initiators of TM.  Seems 
most anyone who aspired to more than just that got cast out, by tradition too.
 However too,  Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is of a different scope.  He is 
definitely guru material, by definition.  -Buck
 

  
 emptybill writes:

 Guru-Shmuru blah blah blah.
  
 The word ‘Guru’ just signifies a spiritual mentor in Sanskrit based lineages. 
There are ways to qualify a traditional guru in Indian and Tibetan lineages 
(sampradaya-s) and training with a traditional spiritual mentor is an important 
part of that definition. This has become a significant topic of debate in the 
West since all types of New-Age, Neo-Vedanta and Neo-Buddhist 
“teachers/gurus/oh-so-enlightened facilitators” are plying their wares like 
“sales associates” at the auto plazas.  
  
 Competency in knowing and elucidating scriptural knowledge is an essential 
component in identifying a traditional guru. Membership in a traditional 
lineage (sampradaya) is also essential because co-recognition by other 
legitimate inheritors is a crucial validating point. It confirms the legitimacy 
of the teachings. It also affirms that the fundamental criterion for lineage 
competency is fully evident, genuine and authentic.

 

 This is one reason why TM teachers are not gurus. However, as trained 
instructors in the lineage teachings and techniques, TM teachers are valid 
exponents and initiators.  
  
 BTW … about them bijas.
  
 Proly some TM teachers may have tried out at least one of the "list mantras" 
but few seem to have meditated with three or four of them placed together with 
their original "received" meditation bija-mantra. 
  
 Meditating with such a new and extended “multiple TM-bija-mantra” is the real 
revelation about the overwhelming maha-shakti of this lineage. (More direct 
than a zap of so-called guru-shakti). It is a eye-opener at every level and 
puts to shame the psycho-syndromes of the TM haters and obsessive deniers. No 
shikan taza/mo-chao/vipassana/kundalini spurt/NeoVedantic “presence” or new age 
yah-yah can even remotely approximate it. 
  
 Read it and weep weep weep.
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