--- In [email protected], "brahmachari108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "brahmachari108" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > snip > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Paula Youmans" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Seriously.how does anyone ever know??? > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > I don't believe anyone ever does, in an absolute sense. Life is > > one > > > > long continuum, from evolution to dissolution and over and over > > > > again, so 'enlightenment' as we call it, is a step whereby we > > > > recognize that our sense of ourselves transcends the limitations > > > > that our prior evolution has placed on us. We are larger than we > > > > ever imagined, and live and experience this as reality. > > > > > > > > It seems as if that state is only called 'enlightenment' because > > the > > > > common experience in daily life and locked within our DNA is > > that we > > > > *are* in fact the sum of our limitations. It is how worlds are > > built > > > > typically on Earth, now. That whole 'not enough resources, grab > > what > > > > you can' mentality is a result of living as self-limited beings. > > > > > > > > So, when we stop living the surrealistic reality of our assumed > > > > limitations, and become free, we are said to then > > be 'enlightened'. > > > > But it is merely relative to what our past experience has been. > > In > > > > reality, there is no actual enlightenment. It is just an > > > > evolutionary stage we are very, very fond of here on Earth, > > around > > > > which a consensus has formed with regard to its desirability. > > > > > > > > On the one hand, it is a significant achievement, a milestone of > > > > growth, and on the other hand it is no different really from the > > > > achievements we have achieved all of our lives. > > > > > > > > Perhaps we prize it so greatly because of the subjective > > experience > > > > both of inner and outer freedom, and the knowledge, ability, > > > > responsibility and love that comes with it. All admirable > > qualities. > > > > It both encompasses and transforms the human experience. > > > > > > > > And yet, once this state of inner and outer freedom is reached, > > life > > > > goes on, relative responsibilities and achievements continue, > > and > > > > one day we will look a long way back and realize > > > > that 'enlightenment', that which seemed so important once, is > > not so > > > > relevant to our lives, that the importance of that awakening has > > > > faded over the years, like the memory of a favorite relative, or > > the > > > > significant achievement of learning to walk as a young child. > > > > > > > > Yet, on the horizon of our timeless lives ...another > > enlightenment > > > > beckons... > > > > > > > > > Forgive please but what does your believing have to do with the > > Truth of it? > > > Interesting it is in this group how so many are so eager to let > > others know what their > > > thinking is on enlightenment. > > > > What is your thinking on it? > > What good is it to think on it? > > > > > > > Mental masturbation, this suppostion on the qualities of > > enlightenment. > > > > Is that all you can do because you are 'brahmachari'-- *mental* > > masturbation? > > I don't do sex in any fashion. Mental or otherwise. > Brahmachari definition is not limited to sex. > Truth. > > > > > > TMO fallout.....EGO. > > > > So you've had bad experiences with the TMO? > > No, I had "good" experiences at the time, but found out these experiences really didn't > provide Truth nor enlightenment. > No regrets. > > > > > > Flowery words making it sound as if there is none, yet the > > proferring itself betrays. > > > > What are you talking about? > > Reading your words and most others on their proclamations betrays the level of so called > enlightenment. > Do you think that if someone were truly enlightened, he would feel the need to tell > "others?" What "other" exists in enlightenment? > If enlightenment is egoless, then what drives this need? > > > > > > > Just a few in this group actually contribute references within > > their paths of practice without > > > the "personal commentary" of what they think they know. > > > > > > More useful and true to the mission of this group, it would be if > > more of such > > > contributions were posted. > > > > What is the mission of this group, as you see it? > > It's obvious that garrulity rules. > "Let me tell you what I think"...EGO may not be the mission but it appears clearly. > A place for worthless banter on subjects equally worthless from a group of supposedly > spiritually advanced practitioners. > > Save for a few gems. > > > > > > > Worthless as well, this post. > > > > To each his own... > > Indeed. > > What do I know. > > Nothing personal... > > Peace. > And peace to you. Someone once said that it is easy to be a critic. I personally enjoy sharing experiences and commenting on them. It is all pretty light-hearted actually. And if there are a few gems amongst all the dross, so be it- more than we will find in People magazine, eh?
If you indeed have nothing to say, then why continue to comment on 'worthless posts' as you see them? Are your comments any more meaningful than any others? I am not criticizing you, just making the point that it is discourse that some of us find useful here- not as you suggest our attempts to flatter ourselves by proclamations of our own enlightenment. Are you and I even all that different? ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
