--- In [email protected], "Irmeli Mattsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I tend to agree with Rama that it is actually > > *easier* for a woman to realize enlightenment > > than it is for a man. It's not a value judge- > > ment; it's an energetic thing. But it doesn't > > seem to happen as often as it should, and I > > personally think that one of the reasons is the > > encapusaltion of sexual bigotry into religion. > > If a society that is run by men wants to *keep* > > being run by men, how do you pull that off? > > Easy. You just make the superiority of men and > > the subservience of the women a part of the > > dogma of the prevalent religion. Look at the > > Catholic Church. Look at India. > > > > **** > Islam should be added in your list as the number one of religions that > have made the subservience of the women a dogma to keep men in their > position of superiority and control over women. I think largely the > problems of violent fanaticism is due to the subordinate position of > women. That kind of women cannot raise healthy children, who can adopt > in adulthood independent clear moral reasoning and who have no need to > subjugate others to feel good about themselves. > > I just read in a magazine an interview of dr.Salman Asif. He was born > in Pakistan and is working as a consultant in Britain in the Ministry > of the Interior on non-violent crisis resolution. > The article dealt with honour realated violence that is prevalent in > Islam cultures. > In the article he brings out many oddities (to me terrible features) > in the moral reasoning related to women in Pakistan. For example a > raped woman has to bring to court as witness four men or eight women. > If she cannot, she will be put in prison. 70% of the prisoners in > Pakistan are raped women! > I felt myself sick and nauseous after reading the article. > > Irmeli >
An interesting bit of trivia is that some in the Northern Alliance (our allies against the Taliban) were worse in their treatment of women than the Taliban, who were moderates in their treatment of women compared to some in Pakistan and Afghanistan -- many in the Northern Alliance are of the same tribal background as the worst offenders in Pakistan. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
