On 6/26/2014 8:50 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
*From:* "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
I know people from that era who still think Charlie was hooked into
some kind of special ascended master crap and therefore thinks he was
some kind of special guy, even the ones who don't do TM anymore.
They probably didn't experience Charlie getting bent behind an
imagined offense and going somewhat crazy behind it, spending months
trying to get the supposed wrongdoer fired from his job. I did.
>
So, you got fired from your job at SIMS. I always thought so - you
sucked at it. Go figure.
>
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*From:* "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, June 26, 2014 9:15 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of
lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
*From:* salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
Having listened to a couple of tapes I think he sounds like an old
time preacher crossed with any number of new age guru's. Maybe you had
to be there to buy into whatever charisma he's supposed to have but he
delivers his speeches like a second hand car dealer reading a script.
I wouldn't say "used car salesman vibe" as much as I would
"Theosophical poseur vibe." Charlie -- from my perspective -- was
pretty much a clone of every other male teacher I've ever encountered
in the world of Western Mysticism. Used car salesmen actually display
a little faux emotion in their pitches. Theosophists and Golden
Dawn-ers tended to speak in that "I cannot display emotion of any kind
when I speak because that might lead people to believe that this
incredible wisdom I'm laying on them was learned recently and is a new
revelation for me, rather than something I was a master of before they
were out of grade school" tone of voice. :-)
Charlie was a mildly entertaining charlatan. I always figured that the
only reason TMers in L.A. flocked to see him was that his spiritual
poseur act was at least more interesting than hearing Maharishi say
the same old things on tape after tape after tape. I went to see him
because his talks were the best place in town to pick up women. Most
of them were TMers or TM teachers there for the same reason -- to hook
up. :-)
It reminds me of John Hagelin's endless rants on the Marshy channel -
but without Hagelin's obvious insanity. Maybe there were just a lot of
people about in those days that wanted to hear - a positive message,
no matter how unlikely?
They loved to hear him talk about "the things that Maharishi
*wouldn't* talk about." It didn't how silly or naive or insane these
topics were, just as long as they were new and sounded vaguely
"spiritual."
Maybe this explains the intensity of Hagelin's monologues, in Charlies
day no one knew any better but now we have the benefit of hindsight,
to keep banging on that the Golden Age is coming sounds positively
demened. Poor old JH is trying to convince himself as well as us
whereas Charlie probably believed it all...
I'm honestly not sure how much of Charlie's jive he believed. I
honestly got the overall vibe of a guy who has been telling the same
stories for so long that it no longer *mattered* to him whether they
were true or not. He just got off on telling them again, for any
audience that would listen with rapt attention.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
Thanks for posting this. Lutes was a truly interesting American and a
Seer.
I notice that the deserts aren't exactly "blooming" at the moment, did
he have a specific timescale for this wondrous new world of peace and
enlightenment, or do we have to annihilate radical Islam and the oil
industry first?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <rick@...> wrote :
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq