--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I wonder about this "meaningless sounds" business. At the 
> > preparatory  lecture, I always used to say the mantras 
were "sounds 
> > the effects of which are known," or "words selected for their 
sound 
> > quality,"  or something like that.  I never said, "meaningless 
> > sounds" and I wonder whether using that phrase was ever an 
official 
> > instruction. It's a very unfortunate phrase, in my opinion.
> 
> Whatever associations they may have in Hinduism,
> as they're used in TM they're semantically 
> meaningless sounds.>>>


This is the whole point, because all, I repeat, all sounds are 
meaningless until we apply a concept to them.  
There is no sound that have meaning that is not applied by someone, 
and there can be subtle and dramatic differences of meaning applied 
across and throughout cultures. Which is consistent with the original 
Vedic concept in the Rig Ved, since it was not thought valid to deify 
things. For example, Ganesh is an elephant faced god in Hinuism, but 
he originated from Ganapati in the Rig Ved, which 
signifies 'beginnings' and was also the name of a tribe of the Vedas. 
So different meanings are applied to the same sounds. Ganapati now 
means an elephant faced god to many hindus, but in the Rig Ved this 
was not its meaning.

OffWorld






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