I see the years of TM have made you quite sattvic. Another fine example of TM efficacy.
________________________________ From: "steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga Michael, excuse the crude reference, but generally speaking you are not a pimple on Ann''s ass, or anyone's ass for that matter. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote : What was it you told me the other day, Ann? Don't have a heart attack or some such? ________________________________ From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote : I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! Whoa! Lets have some details on this one! This happened in the UK? How long ago? And the babies actually had lead poisoning? There must be different rules in the UK - I don't think the ayurvedic medicines that contain the heavy metals are allowed by law here in the US. Do they allow them in the UK or did the parents get them surreptitiously? How did the lawsuits come out? You have to get the stuff from India to get the full "benefits". I have no other details, I can't name names. I knew the girl concerned but hadn't seen her for ages - this happened some time ago and I only found out recently. It amazes me how something like that that really ought to blow things apart gets forgotten about very quickly to protect the ludicrously idealistic view of the world they promote. The golden age must have been grim with health care like this, mind you life expectancy was extremely low in India when the vedas were written so maybe they just never got to find out how poor the drugs were. I am of course extremely pissed off that she got involved with these snake oil salesmen and that it ended like that. I know there are others that got ill in Indian clinics recommended by Marshy and sued the TMO but we never find out how they got on. Must be some sort of non-disclosure agreement. I remember being on a foreign course and being really pleased that we could get hold of AV stuff with the "correct" ingredients that are "stupidly" forbidden in Europe, if only we were more enlightened eh? Strange, there have been thousands of people/children poisoned by lead in all sorts of toys, venetian blinds and household products for decades/centuries now. Are they sure it was from Ayurvedic use? A fine example of cult thinking, It is? What cult am I a member of? Do I practice Ayurveda? Have I ever practiced it? The answer is "no". So how about reconsidering your assessment and consider I am playing devil's advocate?As a purported "scientist" Sal, what proof do you have that this child's lead poisoning was the result of the lead its mother ingested while pregnant? What concoction had the lead in it? How long and how much did this woman imbibe of this substance? Did the baby die? Was it deformed? Who diagnosed the lead poisoning and what were the symptoms that lead the mother to seek treatment for the baby? Where did the mother live, near some industrial area where lead was in the water, the soil, in the air? Who traced the lead source back to the Ayurveda or did you read this on FB? LOL Lead in toys and petrol was banned when it was discovered to be dangerous. This is the difference between science and religion, science is self correcting - when something is found to be wrong it is changed for a superior explanation. And in the case of medicine, a less dangerous one. The believers in received wisdom can't change their beliefs because they come from a "higher" power, so if something goes wrong they have to cope with it in some way. perhaps by making light of it as you've just done or just by being in plain denial, as the TMO have done or by pretending this person never existed and carrying on offering people the "world's most perfect system of healthcare". Or by scapegoating, which means they'll try and find some other factor to be responsible like bad karma or a lack of belief or non-conformity in the groups ideals. All to make up for the errors in faulty knowledge that they live by, this girl probably didn't contribute enough to the yagya programme or criticized the TMO when she was turned down for TTC, karma is unfathomable etc....
