--- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 11/4/05 10:47 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], Rick Archer > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> on 11/3/05 3:23 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >>> During the proper practice of TM, the mantras are indeed > > meaningless > >>> sounds (TM properly practiced has nothing to with any meaning one > >>> might assign to the mantras, but to their use as a vehicle of > >>> attention, a sound resonating with the mind in a way that leads > > to > >>> transcendence). Outside of the practice of TM, if Hindus want to > >>> assign meanings to the sounds, that has nothing to do with the > >>> practice of TM. > >> > > > >> Mantras are effective by virtue of the energy and intelligence > > imbued in > >> them or associated with them. You tickle a Devata, the Devata > > tickles you > >> back. Indians understand this, and I've heard Maharishi talk about > > it. He > >> just emphasized the meaningless sound bit to make TM palatable in > > the West. > >> > > ***************** > > > > People who correctly practice TM, whether they are Hindus or not, do > > not think of tickling devatas during the practice of TM -- they > > follow the instructions given for using the mantra as a vehicle of > > attention, and transcend all thought (if one were to embrace > > thoughts of tickling or whatever, this would disable transcending). > > So the practice of TM is the same for all practitioners, Hindu or > > not, although Hindus are certainly entitled to think about their > > practice or anything else the way they want to outside of the > > practice of TM. >
> I understand that, but whether or not they realize the connection between > their mantra and the Devata associated with it, that connection exists, and > by virtue of it, the mantra has its intended effect. I used to have an audio > tape from a Rishikesh TTC in which Maharishi talked about this in some > detail. Hey Vaj, you can elaborate on this stuff, can't you? > *********** If somebody likes to ride a rollercoaster, they do not have to have a degree in Physics to enjoy the ride, although the engineers who designed the ride certainly had a grasp of physical law. Hindus who are comfortable with talking about the gods can appreciate talking about TM in those terms, but it's not necessary to enjoy the practice of TM, so Westerners are not being shortchanged or misled when talk of gods is not directed to them by the Hindu monk who brought TM to the world. MMY has always said, "We teach knowledge of the infinite, not infinite knowledge." ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
