--- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,3605,1627424,00.html > > > Fuel's paradise? Power source that turns physics on its head > > · Scientist says device disproves quantum theory > · Opponents claim idea is result of wrong maths > > Alok Jha, science correspondent > Friday November 4, 2005 > The Guardian >
>From "hydrino" YG: From: "smenton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri Nov 4, 2005 0:58am Subject: Re: New article on BLP smenton I finally got a hold of the "Focus" article. I am not able to link it, but it is certainly worth tracking down. It is a pretty general overview and the author tries very hard to remain objective. A lot of the article will be familiar to those who have been following even moderately closely. One of the most interesting aspects of the article is the public affirmation of more independent replications of BLP's results and quotes from some of the scientists who have performed some of the recent replications. The article includes the following: " Mills has published a host of papers detailing his theory of hydrinos in serious research journals. Meanwhile, independent investigators have carried out experiments to test his claims and replicated them ." Professor Rick Maas of the University of North Carolina, whose name has not, to my recollection, surfaced on this Bd before, is quoted extensively in the article. The article describes his involvement as follows: "[BLP] claim[s] to have triggered the creation of hydrino states by heating hydrogen until it turns into a plasma and adding catalysts, releasing energy much greater than predicted using standard theory. Once again, these claims have been published in serious academic journals, and have also been replicated by other researchers, including Maas. `We went in with a healthy amount of scepticism,' Maas says, with his team carrying out a series of experiments earlier this year to test different aspects of the claims being made. `We found very strong evidence for the existence of hydrinos, and significant net energy gains of two to 40 per cent.' " After carrying out his own independent study of claims, Maas admits to being awestruck by the results. `There's no way unless you didn't want to believe it that you'd not say you were convinced.' " This response, of course, is completely consistent with the now well- documented phenomena that, those who actually see the BLP experiments and accurately replicate them, come away very impressed while many who rely on their ability to discern scientific truth through the internet or from the confines of the APS newsletter office, remain unconvinced. I also liked how Professor Maas blows off the hydrino-phobe's ill- informed, but all too frequent, attempts to smear BLP by trying to link it to cold fusion. Maas affirms what many of us on this forum have long asserted: "...This is so far from cold fusion that it's insulting to compare the two...." The article also includes background information and comments from Prof Jonathan Phillips of the University of New Mexico. " He first heard of Mills and his ideas shortly after debunking cold fusion on theoretical grounds, and fully expected to be underwhelmed. That changed after reading Mills's theoretical papers. `I find his theory very compelling,' says Phillips, who has since teamed up with Mills. But Phillips adds that the radical break from conventional thinking has helped fuel scepticism ." The hydrinophobe position is largely based on comments from Rathke: "...Despite being published in respected physics journals, the theory is still viewed with deep suspicion though remarkably few critics have put their knock-out arguments in print. One who has is Andreas Rathke, until recently a theoretical physicist with the European Space Agency (ESA). Earlier this year he published a paper which concluded there were "severe inconsistencies" in Mills's theory, which was 'incompatible' with quantum mechanics. But Rathke's critique has now been shown to be flawed by Prof Jan Naudts, an expert on quantum mechanics at the University of Antwerp. 'It was clearly incomplete, and even misleading, .' BTW if you want to read a very succinct summary of the multiple flaws, misinterpretations and errors in Rathke's recently published paper, get a hold of Prof Phillips' rebuttal. In the meantime, the article includes a great quote from Maas who really puts things in perspective: " Maas believes it's time for the sceptics to put up or shut up. `The experiments are so convincing, it's time to stop bickering about the theory.' Gosh, it is refreshing to see scientists actually act like scientists rather than arrogant, know-it-all internet critics who feel qualified to dismiss reams of experimental evidence without ever seeing or trying to replicate a single experiment. If the hydrinophobes who used to haunt this Bd continue to stick their heads in the sand and pretend that the BLP experiments are not real, they may soon be identified as the 21st Century equivalents of the Flat Earth Society. Steve Menton 9674 ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
