Michael, obviously I have no way of knowing if everyone knows about these
meetings! As I said, I found out via a friend. I refer you to today's posts
from Buck and feste for more details.
On Thursday, August 7, 2014 7:23 PM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
if the group is open to the public and its advertised there in Fairfield,
everyone there already knows about it, so why act so mysterious? Answer the
question, is it a private group? is the Movement sponsoring it? or are you just
making all this crap up?
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From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I
served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me & my troops who learned it
Michael, you friend is uninformed. I attended a meeting with this group last
Tuesday. I think it was their fourth meeting. I will give your friend details
of the next meeting if he or she wants to attend for the purpose of helping to
improve situations.
On Thursday, August 7, 2014 6:11 PM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
I just got a private e-mail from someone in Fairfield who says that you are
making all this up about the TMO creating a group to help people with mental
problems that might lead to suicide. As I thought.
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From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I
served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me & my troops who learned it
I found out from friends who know of my interest in helping improve the
situation.
On Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:38 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
so how do I find out about them?
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From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I
served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me & my troops who learned it
Michael, how I am replying is totally my choice and is based to a large extent
on the tone of your posts here, including this one. I think you are stuck in
the past about the TMO. More importantly, I don't think you welcome good news
about the TMO. But you are welcome to come to one of the public meetings I'm
referring to and find out for yourself. That is, if you are sincerely
interested in improving situations.
On Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:10 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
And with true Movement slippery-ness you are refusing to give us any info on
how the Movement is dealing with ongoing suicides. Why the secrecy? Interesting
in that you just took me to task for not responding to Sounds of Silence's bs.
So what are the Movement's remedies to prevent suicide? More meditation? More
yagyas? More money donated to the Movement? Come on Share, don't blather about
it unless you are gonna come clean. I know the Movement. The Movement in fact
does not evolve. They are still stuck in the vibe that the Old Fraud himself
gave that TM is 1000000000% life supporting. They can't offer a damn thing to
mitigate suicides among TM'ers that works, cause you could have to cease TM to
do so.
Their remedies are all superstitious nonsense. So come on, prove me wrong. Are
they now suggesting that depressed TM'ers go get professional non-TM help from
psychiatrists? Or is it some ayurvedic mental health fakir who come from India
to squirt some mango juice in their ears while chanting mantras to them, all at
an exorbitant price?
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From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I
served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me & my troops who learned it
Michael, all I'm saying is that wrt suicide and the TMO, your allegation that
the TMO is ignoring such situations is out of date. I'd also add that the TMO
is an evolving organization comprised of evolving individuals in an evolving
universe. It's healthy to make use of what's beneficial in the world and if one
wants, help heal and or develop what's still evolving. I don't think it's
healthy to keep focused on what happened a long time ago with a non healing
intention. Which is what I think you do.
On Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:32 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
E-mail me - you've got my address here. mjackso...@yahoo.com
How can they be doing anything about it when they adamantly claim TM is 100%
life supporting. I know what kind of response they had when Mark Totten stepped
in front of a train - it was their usual response - "He must not have been
meditating correctly."
Wonder if they said that about the purusha man who set himself on fire in
Marshy's basement?
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From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I
served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me & my troops who learned it
Michael, as with many of your allegations, you are very much out of date with
your accusation that suicide is ignored by the TMO. If you or anyone else
sincerely wants more info, then email me directly.
On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:59 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
its ignored by the TMO and all True Believers - if you know diff, come on and
make a liar out-a me.
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From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I
served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me & my troops who learned it
Michael is completely out of date with the allegations he makes here wrt
suicide being ignored. If anyone is interested in details, please email me
directly.
On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:39 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
That's great and there are plenty of other like you. As well as plenty of
others who have had their lives devastated by their practice of TM and TMSP as
well as their affiliation with the Movement.
Talk sometime to those long term TM practitioners who survived suicide attempts
or the families of those whose attempts were successful and you may find a
different perspective on TM. I have talked to some of them and I know whereof I
speak. Suicide amongst long term TMSP'ers is one of the darkest and most
ignored aspects of the Movement.
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From: "William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I
served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me & my troops who learned it
TM has worked for me as well & 4 as many of my troops who learned it &
continue to so practice it. I & a very few have joined various WPS & groups to
more fully spread what we believe & in some cases even KNOW it to be a most
positive effect in joys 4 me personally & those about me then.
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From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Aug 7, 2014 9:07 am
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...NOT
On 8/7/2014 2:03 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
In yet another wonderful revelation about the poverty of Israeli ethics...
>
Several other points need to made on this subject:
* The TB has never served in the military and he is probably a draft
dodger of some kind, although his parents apparently were career U.S. military.
* The TB is highly prone to the suggestions of others and under peer
pressure to join groups that espouse some form of religious ideology.
* The TB lives in a country that is overtly anti-semitic - a country
that shirked it's U.N. duty to protect innocent civilians in the Bosnia war,
turning a blind eye to a slaughter.
