OK, even you hard-line True Believers have to admit that was funny, right? :-)
________________________________ From: "Michael Jackson [email protected] [FairfieldLife]" <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 8, 2014 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Mental Health in the Fairfield and Meditating Communities Yep, we know the vedas are chock full of good mental health therapies, like confining someone to a basement so their vata will get back into balance. ________________________________ From: "[email protected] [FairfieldLife]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, August 8, 2014 12:59 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Mental Health in the Fairfield and Meditating Communities I dont' know about the TMO creating a mental health clinic for Fairfield, but Robert Schneider gave a plenary presentation last weekend about mental health therapies from a Vedic perspective. This sounds like the barest inkling of an admission of an issue that needs to be addressed. L ---In [email protected], <mjackson74@...> wrote : Sounds great Bucky! Except other people I know in FF say they have never heard of any of this - so we shall see. I am sure if it exists the Movement will brag about it all over the place. ________________________________ From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 8:19 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Mental Health in the Fairfield and Meditating Communities Nope. MJ, someone evidently is leading you along [by the nose] with bad information. That simply is not true. There have been working meetings of [meditating] mental health professionals and interested people going on for weeks around actively delivering modern mental health to the Fairfield and meditating communities. That process has pushed a development of a mental health clinic on campus that is being set up and staffed. There is movement with local community resources of hospital, emergency response, social services and police to have qualified mental health people available as standard now. Even a local facility to help in crisis. These are work in progress in the meditating community and locally working together around this. Yes and all very much looking at the culture of the meditating community around modern mental health services and resources is going on. One of the academic papers delivered at the academic conference over this last weekend was a framework for mental health from the movement adopting modern scientific and effective practices to mental health. This is being forced and grappled with by good people and the movement too. There is good progress and work in progress. You are making wild and large assumptions evidently to your own end otherwise. -Buck, on the Ground in Fairfield and in the Dome mjackson74 writes: I just got a private e-mail from someone in Fairfield who says that you are making all this up about the TMO creating a group to help people with mental problems that might lead to suicide. As I thought. ________________________________ From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me & my troops who learned it I found out from friends who know of my interest in helping improve the situation. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:38 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" <[email protected]> wrote: so how do I find out about them? ________________________________ From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me & my troops who learned it Michael, how I am replying is totally my choice and is based to a large extent on the tone of your posts here, including this one. I think you are stuck in the past about the TMO. More importantly, I don't think you welcome good news about the TMO. But you are welcome to come to one of the public meetings I'm referring to and find out for yourself. That is, if you are sincerely interested in improving situations. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:10 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" <[email protected]> wrote: And with true Movement slippery-ness you are refusing to give us any info on how the Movement is dealing with ongoing suicides. Why the secrecy? Interesting in that you just took me to task for not responding to Sounds of Silence's bs. So what are the Movement's remedies to prevent suicide? More meditation? More yagyas? More money donated to the Movement? Come on Share, don't blather about it unless you are gonna come clean. I know the Movement. The Movement in fact does not evolve. They are still stuck in the vibe that the Old Fraud himself gave that TM is 1000000000% life supporting. They can't offer a damn thing to mitigate suicides among TM'ers that works, cause you could have to cease TM to do so. Their remedies are all superstitious nonsense. So come on, prove me wrong. Are they now suggesting that depressed TM'ers go get professional non-TM help from psychiatrists? Or is it some ayurvedic mental health fakir who come from India to squirt some mango juice in their ears while chanting mantras to them, all at an exorbitant price? ________________________________ From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me & my troops who learned it Michael, all I'm saying is that wrt suicide and the TMO, your allegation that the TMO is ignoring such situations is out of date. I'd also add that the TMO is an evolving organization comprised of evolving individuals in an evolving universe. It's healthy to make use of what's beneficial in the world and if one wants, help heal and or develop what's still evolving. I don't think it's healthy to keep focused on what happened a long time ago with a non healing intention. Which is what I think you do. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:32 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" <[email protected]> wrote: E-mail me - you've got my address here. mjackson74@... How can they be doing anything about it when they adamantly claim TM is 100% life supporting. I know what kind of response they had when Mark Totten stepped in front of a train - it was their usual response - "He must not have been meditating correctly." Wonder if they said that about the purusha man who set himself on fire in Marshy's basement? ________________________________ From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me & my troops who learned it Michael, as with many of your allegations, you are very much out of date with your accusation that suicide is ignored by the TMO. If you or anyone else sincerely wants more info, then email me directly. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:59 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" <[email protected]> wrote: its ignored by the TMO and all True Believers - if you know diff, come on and make a liar out-a me. ________________________________ From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me & my troops who learned it Michael is completely out of date with the allegations he makes here wrt suicide being ignored. If anyone is interested in details, please email me directly. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:39 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" <[email protected]> wrote: That's great and there are plenty of other like you. As well as plenty of others who have had their lives devastated by their practice of TM and TMSP as well as their affiliation with the Movement. Talk sometime to those long term TM practitioners who survived suicide attempts or the families of those whose attempts were successful and you may find a different perspective on TM. I have talked to some of them and I know whereof I speak. Suicide amongst long term TMSP'ers is one of the darkest and most ignored aspects of the Movement. ________________________________ From: "William Leed WLeed3@... [FairfieldLife]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...I served 28 yrs now Ret Col TM is a great success4me & my troops who learned it TM has worked for me as well & 4 as many of my troops who learned it & continue to so practice it. I & a very few have joined various WPS & groups to more fully spread what we believe & in some cases even KNOW it to be a most positive effect in joys 4 me personally & those about me then. -----Original Message----- From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] <[email protected]> To: FairfieldLife <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Aug 7, 2014 9:07 am Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] How to inspire confidence in your troops...NOT On 8/7/2014 2:03 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: In yet another wonderful revelation about the poverty of Israeli ethics... > >>Several other points need to made on this subject: >> >> >> * The TB has never served in the military and he is probably a draft dodger of some kind, although his parents apparently were career U.S. military. >> * The TB is highly prone to the suggestions of others and under peer pressure to join groups that espouse some form of religious ideology. >> * The TB lives in a country that is overtly anti-semitic - a country that shirked it's U.N. duty to protect innocent civilians in the Bosnia war, turning a blind eye to a slaughter. >> >> >> >>
