On 8/25/2014 1:18 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
Richard, what's a good example of something which taken to an extreme
is self contradictory? It sounds right but an example would help.
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Everything changes - nothing changes. This all relates to the "two
truths" - there is an absolute truth and a relative truth. According to
Wilber, none of these relative levels are true in an absolute sense:
only formless awareness, "the simple feeling of being," exists absolutely.
Another classic example is the magicians trick - the false
interpretation of the senses placed on the evidence of the senses by the
spectator. For example, coins and rabbits are manipulated by the
magician strictly in accord with the laws of motion and gravity that
govern all objects. /It is the spectator who penetrates no deeper than
his eyesight and sees these objects going in and out of pockets and top
hats. /
"The purpose of the dialectic method of reasoning is resolution of
disagreement through rational discussion, and, ultimately, the search
for truth. One way to proceed—the Socratic method—is to show that a
given hypothesis (with other admissions) leads to a contradiction; thus,
forcing the withdrawal of the hypothesis as a candidate for truth (see
reductio ad absurdum). Another dialectical resolution of disagreement is
by denying a presupposition of the contending thesis and antithesis;
thereby, proceeding to sublation (transcendence) to synthesis, a third
thesis."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectic
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On Monday, August 25, 2014 1:10 PM, "'Richard J. Williams'
pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
On 8/25/2014 10:02 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote:
MJ obviously forgot the "BEFORE" and now he's in trouble. You seem to
suggest it could "worsen" which is doubtful as it hardly can get any
worse except with a total nervous breakdown which sometimes happens
when severe and prologued Pitta-conditions and severe traumas goes
untreated. He can however hope for a miracle of some sort.
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He can only get so much psychological help here and with Judy no
longer around, he won't get any help with his hypocrisy problem. Just
about all we can do is point out to him his cognitive dissonance and
try to convince him that almost anything, when taken to extremes, will
be found to be self-contradictory. I wounder how his /Kung Foo/ is
working out for him and if he has been able to tap into the Qi /-
universal life force energy/? There may be a lot more work for him to
actually learn how to levitate, if all he can manage now is a few
squats and some arm waving and newsgroup posting.
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<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <punditster@...>
<mailto:punditster@...> wrote :
On 8/25/2014 7:03 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote:
One has doubts as your problems seem to be deeprooted trauma,
but let's see what Fleetwood is able to accomplish. From what
I've heard his influence is not bound by space.
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The first step in recovering from mental trauma is to see a
cult-exit counselor or a professional BEFORE the trauma becomes
deep rooted. If the condition persists over a long time, you get
people subscribing to an internet discussion group and trying to
talk themselves out of their cognitive dissonance. Sometimes the
condition actually worsens and morphs into another trauma -
getting ridiculed on a public forum for being a true believer in
the first place.
Face it, if someone hasn't come to terms with their youthful
indiscretions in thirty years it's probably never going to get
resolved except through medication prescribed by a doctor.
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<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <mjackson74@...>
<mailto:mjackson74@...> wrote :
"completely cure people from heavy pshycosis"
Wow! So there is hope for you True Believers yet!
*From:* nablusoss1008 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
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*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
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*Sent:* Monday, August 25, 2014 3:43 AM
*Subject:* Re: Quotes on celestial life by MMY (was Re:
[FairfieldLife] Movie Time)
"And to think that Mr Fleetwood thinks so highly of you. I wish
you could learn something from any of these men. They are real
gentlemen, and you are not."
The only explanation is that he tries to help the poor fellow. I
once had a discussion with shaman who claimed it was possible to
bring back and completely cure people from heavy pshycosis as a
result of a LSD trip with the shear force of consciousness. He
could be right in theory but I never saw nor heard that it ever
happenned.
Mr Fleetwood is a good man, he could have similar ideas about
his healing abilities regarding the fellow who has been
pestering FFL with bad language, namecalling and extreme
negativity lately.
