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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote : Steve, I've heard of this phenom where a cure grows right next to a poison. I guess "science hasn't figured out yet how that happens. Anyway, great points and of course we like to think we're right. Cuz it makes us feel safe! On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 6:53 AM, "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Look, I think we get it. For whatever reason, until science "proves" something, you are more comfortable putting all alternative cures in the "placebo" bin. And of course, if you look at the evidence on Dock Leaf as I just did, you see a variety of opinions, not just your determination that it contains no active ingredient that might reduce the swelling. It's the same with CS. You point out the evidence that supports your POV, and discount the rest. Everyone like to think they're right. You included. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote : I guess this is Sal showing how invested he is in his version of CS, that any positive outcome must be chalked up to the placebo effect. Sort of shows a different side I think. "My version"? In England we have these things called Stinging Nettles, brush against them with bare legs - or even thin trousers - and you get a painful little rash with raised bumps and a red patch that will hang around for hours if left untreated. Luckily - as popular wisdom would have it - nature has provided the cure with the Dock Leaf which always grows nearby, nice bit of nature support. As everybody knows almost from birth if you rub a Dock Leaf on nettle rash it goes down immediately and this is what we always do, and it works every time. It turns out of course, that the Dock Leaf has no active ingredients that may counter the acids in Stinging Nettles. This doesn't stop it working. That's what science does, it sorts out what is going on better than we can tell with anecdote alone. The question is, would you rather know or not know? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote : Salyavin, actually I did google on silver before I bought it. I even asked the store clerk about the grey skin possibility. She informed me that they use it all winter long on ear aches for their kids. Plus my Dad had been saved by it. So... Such is my kind of science. Here's my kind: The FDA has concluded that the risk of using silver products exceeds any unsubstantiated benefit [3]. So far, eleven cases of argyria related to silver products have been reported: A 56-year-old man who had sold and used colloidal silver for three years, developed blue/gray discoloration of his fingernails accompanied by a very high blood level of silver [4]. A married couple who had three years of daily consumption of a drink prepared by administering an electrolytic charge to a bowl of water that contained a silver bar [5]. Another couple had been taking a silver-containing "dietary supplement" prescribed by a naturopath [5]. A mentally ill man who had been drinking silver-containing herbal tea for about 10 months [5]. Stan Jones, Montana's Libertarian Party candidate for the U.S. Senate, who reportedly started taking colloidal silver in 1999 for fear that Y2K disruptions might lead to a shortage of antibiotics. He made his own concoction by electrically two silver wires in a glass of water [6]. Two men, ages 63 and 76, developed argyria after a year of product use inspired by Internet claims [7]. A 16-year-old boy developed blue-gray pigmentation of his entire body after ingesting a silver-containing dietary supplement for a year. The product, packaged so that it was identical to bottled water. was touted as a preventive for everyday infections [8]. A 58-year-old man who treated a presumed kidney infection with a home-brewed colloidal solution 12 times a day for 4 days developed argyria about 4 weeks later [9]. A 38-year-old man developed argyria after ingesting approximately 16 ounces of 450 ppm colloidal silver three times a day for 10 months to treat his arthritis and other conditions. He made the solution with a simple battery-operated chamber that leached silver from pure silver wire. He had obtained the plans from information on the Internet [10]. The photograph to the right shows how his skin color compares to that of normal skin. [3] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8632503?dopt=Abstract http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8632503?dopt=Abstract Systemic argyria associated with ingestion of colloidal silver [eScholarship] http://escholarship.org/uc/item/0832g6d3 Systemic argyria associated with ingestion of colloidal ... http://escholarship.org/uc/item/0832g6d3 Systemic argyria associated with ingestion of colloidal silver Akhil Wadhera MD and Max Fung MD Dermatology Online Journal 11 (1): 1... View on escholarship.org http://escholarship.org/uc/item/0832g6d3 Preview by Yahoo I think these dudes with argyria look really cool. Ought to save a fortune on fancy dress costumes, but you are kind of limited to going as cyborgs... Text and links from: Colloidal Silver: Risk Without Benefit http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/PhonyAds/silverad.html http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/PhonyAds/silverad.html Colloidal Silver: Risk Without Benefit http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/PhonyAds/silverad.html Colloidal Silver: Risk Without Benefit Stephen Barrett, M.D. Colloidal silver is a suspension of submicroscopic metallic silver particles in a colloidal... View on www.quackwatch.com http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/PhonyAds/silverad.html Preview by Yahoo As usual, you pays your money and you takes your chance....