Thanks, Richard, cool info. I once heard from a friend that we can fulfill 
those less than wonderful desires in dream state. And that counts too but 
doesn't, I guess, accrue any negative karma.



On Monday, August 25, 2014 9:16 PM, "'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com 
[FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 


  
On 8/25/2014 8:59 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

  
>Re"I have never met a single TM'er who could honestly say they had fulfilled 
>all desires":
>And yet, . . ., and yet . . . Isn't it the case that *when you are meditating* 
>you often enter a state in which your quotidian desires no longer impinge on 
>your consciousness and you are happy to remain just where you are. True, one 
>could say the same thing about being asleep, but Indian philosophers have 
>often taken the deep sleep state as a paradigm for enlightenment. No desires = 
>fulfillment of desires.
>
In Tibetan Dream Yoga, maintaining full consciousness while in the dream state 
is part of Dzogchen training. This training is described by Tenzin Wangyal 
Rinpoche as 'Rigpa Awareness'. Lucid dreaming is secondary to the experience of 
'Diamond Light'. Rigpa Awareness is very similar to 'witnessing sleep' in TM, 
which helps the individual understand the unreality of waking consciousness as 
phenomena. Apparently the EEG patterns are the same in Rigpa Awareness as in 
TM. 

Read more:

'Tibetan Yoga Of Dream And Sleep'
by Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche
Snow Lion, 1998 
>


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