Yep, from that level of consciousness, there is no real diff between where the wisdom comes from, who's tradition owns it, whether catholic, taoist or atheist. All of them are secondary to the reality that they apprehend, so if a person gets to that place, their wisdom will automatically transcend any religious (or scientific) wrapping, aka when you see the Buddha on the road, kill him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <s3raphita@...> wrote :
Your take is a highly intellectualized version of what de Caussade and the Taoists are saying (nothing wrong with that!). De Caussade's little book amounts to his advice to go with the flow and to let go of our constant attempts to label this experience as good and that as bad. It really is Taoist and so all the more impressive as de Caussade had no doubt never read Lao Tzu. He's saying the same as the Zen classic the Hsin Hsin Ming: It’s not difficult to discover your Buddha Mind But just don’t try to search for it. Cease accepting and rejecting possible places Where you think it can be found And it will appear before you. Be warned! The slightest exercise of preference Will open a gulf as wide and deep as the space between heaven and earth. If you want to encounter your Buddha Mind Don’t have opinions about anything. Opinions produce argument And contentiousness is a disease of the mind. Plunge into the depths. Stillness is deep. There’s nothing profound in shallow waters. The Buddha Mind is perfect and it encompasses the universe. It lacks nothing and has nothing in excess. If you think that you can choose between its parts You’ll miss its very essence. . . . Comments (0) Add New There are no c ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <fleetwood_macncheese@...> wrote : Yeah, exactly. There is a massive universe churning away out there, and once it becomes visceral to us, everything takes on an entirely different light. No More Isolation. Whatever you want to call Bliss, God, spiritual life, unity, love, whatever it is called, it all means that not only have the many become one, but also the one stretches infinitely in every direction, real and imagined. The expression, "everything changes, and nothing changes" is the apt one. We are forever suspended in paradox, in transcendence, in oneness. That oneness comes alive, unifies thought, emotion, action, so that everything is seen automatically in a context that always makes sense, even if it must be figured out. Logic and deduction are all means to an end, but cannot sit by themselves. So, there is no grand unification theory, based on science, or a direction prescribed by religion, there is only the lively reality of oneness, the active sensation of oneness, and a life of expanding oneness, unification. Everything, no matter what the feeling is at the time, serves to enlarge us, in an ever growing approximation of the universe, ever in front of us, beckoning us to grow, just one step further. Nothing is wasted. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <s3raphita@...> wrote : Here's another quote from de Caussade (I wish there were more Catholics like him): "Those who have abandoned themselves to God always lead mysterious lives and receive from him exceptional and miraculous gifts by means of the most ordinary, natural and chance experiences in which there appears to be nothing unusual. The simplest sermon, the most banal conversation, the least erudite books become a source of knowledge and wisdom to these souls by virtue of God's purpose. This is why they carefully pick up crumbs which clever minds tread under foot, for to them everything is precious and a source of enrichment. They exist in a state of total impartiality, neglecting nothing, respecting and making use of everything."
