---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <punditster@...> wrote : On 9/3/2014 10:59 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Actually Richard, you are not in my top four of odious posters here so I can live with you no matter how many times you feel it necessary to post here. I don't get why you do it nor do I have the time or inclination to avalanche this place like you do, but so be it... > That's a relief. Seriously, you have been so nice to me since Judy disappeared that I feel that I owe you an explanation. First, a confession. My posts really are for the lurkers. My personal goal in this is to post something, anything, that makes the forum look good to outsiders if they should wander in here for whatever reason. Well Tricky, let me tell you something. You failed. Dismally. Your posts read like they were written by an autistic savant who failed the Turing test. In fact, you are one of the people that seriously made me wonder whether I had backed a losing horse in the first place. When I joined FFL I was still a twice-a-day "siddha", I just wanted to read the Kaplan letter and see what the fuss was about. So I joined up and then all the utter bullshit I had witnessed by people in the TMO, all the crappy philosophy from Marshy that had been bugging me, all the scams, all the obvious cultishness, delusion and True Believerism, it all crystalised into a proper understanding and made me realise that it was all merely a hopeful delusion, I'd been had and that was that. And so were you. Reading this list over the years, and in particular the responses of the TB's, has been a big help in the transition from cult thinking back to sanity, your brand of insanity helped a lot there. Thanks. My contribution has been to apply some basic scientific principles to obvious bullshit like yagyas and yogic "flying" You either know how to think in an open minded critical manner or you don't. You don't Tricky, not by a long shot. You are a believer - nothing wrong with that, I don't slag people off for their beliefs - you got taught something when you were young and don't you want to start disbelieving after all these years. Too much intellectual leg work involved I guess. The longer you've been involved, the harder it is to leave, so when any contrary evidence comes along it's much easier to put your hands over your ears and go laa laa laa. I wonder if you ever even realised there was an alternative? So you spend your day posting one line missives that even you don't understand - your hit rate with the non sequitur gag was less than 5% - and links to irrelevant books and articles. Just suppose one of your lurkers does what I always do and followed the link? Duh, you should really have thought about that little scenario but I don't think it would matter if you had. You are a True Believer and the idea of challenging your own beliefs is anathema, we see it everywhere, the TMO loves science but only if it supports them. If there's a chance it won't they don't bother. You fall into a typical religious role of only looking as far into it as to have your beliefs confirmed. Which isn't really taking part. So when you encounter a contrary POV you throw your toys out of the pram and spam it with your usual bullshit. So, thank you for explaining your reasons - I suppose we should be happy there is one. You say you don't care but you should, you are the biggest buffoon here, that you admit that you want to deliberately ruin it because you don't like having your beliefs criticised or that isn't a pro-TM site is quite pathetic but you lack the perspective to see that obviously. It should have rung an alarm bell with Rick but he doesn't seem to care either. But nor do I because if you are a shining example of what a life on the Highest Path can do then you should keep it up so any lurkers can get a feel for the sort of "mature" behaviour you can develop. And run a mile.There's your legacy. Congratulations. Years ago, when the internet was just getting started (1994) I was surfing around and ran across Usenet - discussion groups. At first I subscribed to a site that discussed ISKCON, because I had been a participant in one of their temples for about a year (3716 Watseka Ave in L.A.) and I was taken with their devotion and depth of knowledge. Some members had started a news group discussion on the internet and I started to read and lurk there for a few weeks. I was very impressed with some of the topics discussed and the responses. Then I discovered alt.meditation.transcendental (now Google Groups) and so I decided to join. What a disappointment! It was like a bar room brawl - Judy was there and Barry and Lon P. Stacks (RIP) and they were thrashing it out with that "Asshole Nick" (Andrew Skolnick) the science journalist. Judy did her best to defend her position but for appearances the whole group was just an exercise in futility - it was, and still is, a "cess-pool" of misinformation. So, I decided to post some of my own messages, not so much to prove anything, but just to improve the look and feel. Anyone surfing there would have thought TMers were all buffoons and gimcracks, for all appearances. So, I started writing up some nifty essays with fancy subject lines, not so much to get attention but to make the place look like a forum with useful and insightful analysis. So, for years I posted my essays to AMT to try and make the forum look good. I must have posted 8,000 essay from 1999 - 2003. I didn't get a response from Judy for close to fours years to any of my cogent postings. And, only two from Barry. Maybe they were JELLOS - I don't know. Then, they started spewing and posting political propaganda, in what I thought was an attempt to make the site look like a pile of crap and they tried to make the place look like a dung heap. One day I disputed Judy's claim that George W. Bush was a "liar" and so I posted a retort. That's about when it hit the fan! Ever since then she has hated my guts - nothing to do with TM or the mechanics of consciousness - just hateful slander and personal attacks, all directed at me. So, I either had to shut up or leave. But look, I've got an ego about as big as Mt. Rushmore so I don't back down without a fight - never have and never will. I am a military brat from Texas and I know everything about everything and I'm living at the center of the universe. So, at some point several of us left the Google Groups and came over to Yahoo Groups. Now it looks like this place going to shit too - there's no moderation, nobody gives a crap, and nobody will stand up for the Maharishi. They aren't even proud of their past. All they want to do is post fluff and drivel - you can read it here every day. It's sometime just pathetic what some people will post to the internet. So, now I've got a 26 inch screen, a screaming quad-core CPU and I can key in test at 100 wpm - that's what I do for a living -make money. It's easy for me to whip out a short post and hit Send. The real challenge is to write cogent, on-topic essays that anyone would want to read. But, let's face it - there's hardly anybody out there interested in TM, TMers or anything to do with discussing the mechanics of consciousness. All some people want to do is wreck the place and sound off. That's cool too. I don't take any of this seriously anymore - I'm here for the entertainment. I've already written a book while they were posting one-liners that end on one line and all begin with RE: But, it's true that I sometimes get caught up in the conversation. Some people really do feel better when they have someone to talk to. It's not personal. It's just like a video game. Some people like World of Warcraft. To each his own. It keeps me at home and out of trouble. I'm on Facebook too. So, I don't have a real formulated viewpoint or a goal - I believe in life; what it does to you and what your do back. I'm already perfectly enlightened - just trying to burn off a little karma before I go into that good night. Sure, I do want to leave a legacy of some sort. These words are forever, or at least until the vandals are at the gate and the servers go down. Selections from the Usenet Archives: Archives http://www.rwilliams.us/archives.htm http://www.rwilliams.us/archives.htm Archives http://www.rwilliams.us/archives.htm "jus b reg 2 x y med, ne alt sans 3 guns, seps abs, n' eyes-wide shut; nodoze, no bear down, u enjoy." (Wallah Sutra 1.5) View on www.rwilliams.us http://www.rwilliams.us/archives.htm Preview by Yahoo Richard, Yes, there is nothing more important than this life. Here's an encouraging word: Google Groups https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/alt.meditation.transcendental/4XLzqM_waj0 Google Groups https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/alt.meditation.transcendental/4XLzqM_waj0 Google Groups allows you to create and participate in online forums and email-based groups with a rich experience for community conversations. View on groups.google.com https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/alt.meditation.transcendental/4XLzqM_waj0 Preview by Yahoo P.S. Steve, please check your email inbox from sbcglobal from Labor Day. From the beach, Marko