On 9/9/2014 1:43 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
As to company, I am looking forward to going to Europe and inviting
both Barry and Sal to have dinner with me.
A nice porterhouse steak p'raps with some green beans and a bit of
duck fat potatoes.
>
You need to get a clue - there's no "porterhouse steaks" over there.
You'd be lucky to get some roast-beef and Yorkshire pudding in the U.K.
From what I've read, there's not a single Tex-Mex restaurant in the
whole of Europe.
>
I don't drink alcohol, but I'll treat Barry and Sal to the libations
of their choice.
I certainly consider them both good company on FFL.
If nature supports, we might get Curtis and Edg to come join us too.
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*From:* danfriedman2002 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 9, 2014 2:29 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "Nice to hear from you,
Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened"
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote :
And since Sal said it, Nappy won't argue cause he is running scared of
all Scorpions.
Dear Mike,
You are betting on the wrong persons(?) here. Please read my response
to Sal regarding "Sal's Facts" and Fleet's response to Barry before
you make your final conclusion.
The company you keep determines the course of your life.
And your life is important, treat it that way.
Dan
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*From:* salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 9, 2014 12:29 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: "Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to
learn you weren't enlightened"
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
Now that even the "holy" Lama has admitted his total failure and
announced there will not be a 15'th Dalai Lama the Turq's anger is
getting out of control. So out of control that he tries to fabricate
stuff about the TMO. In other words, nothing new from the Turq.
This is actually a pretty standard lecture from Marshy, I heard it
loads of times too.
Not that I had any time for any of it, but the facts here are what is
taught and what is believed by followers: Dying in CC is a big mistake
because you never get to evolve to the bigger stuff.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote :
OK, it was kinda inevitable that *somebody* would come along claiming
to be able to pass along Maharishi's messages from beyond the grave.
I'm surprised that it hasn't happened before now.
The thing I'm confused about is how anyone who claims to believe that
*by his own standards and according to his own teachings* Maharishi
was enlightened would be *interested* in hearing a message from him
after death. Or how such a person could even consider such a message a
*possibility* if Maharishi was really enlightened.
In being open to such a promised message possibly being for real, you
would have to believe that Maharishi was NEVER enlightened. If he was,
*according to his own teachings*, after an enlightened person dies,
there can be no individuality left to send such a message. "The drop
has returned to the ocean." That means there ain't no drop (or
personality construct, or self) known as Maharishi out there any more.
Just ocean. Last I checked, oceans don't send messages to guys in
showers, including the shower guy's dead wife in on the conference
call. And if they do, they don't sign them, "Maharishi."
I heard Maharishi give the talks surrounding this point many times,
and they were often controversy-provoking, with people standing up to
the microphone and saying, "No, Maharishi, that *can't* be how it is,
that if you die in CC there is no more 'you' left and you never have a
chance to attain GC or UC."
And *every time* someone did this, Maharishi would "correct" them and
say, "No, there is NO chance of individual personality continuing to
exist after an enlightened person dies. They are already Absolute, and
when the relative body falls away, all that is left is Absolute -- no
personality, no self, nada. Game over, man." OK, he didn't say "Game
over, man," but he did pretty much say all the rest, as many teachers
here on this forum know.
And the thing is Jerry Jarvis knows this better than anyone. He
perfected the art of parroting Maharishi's talks on this subject, and
I heard him give the same speech many times -- "There is no
individuality after an enlightened person dies, and no possibility of
one existing." So if Jerry has actually come to believe that
"messages" from Dead Maharishi could possibly exist, what does that imply?
Well, as far as I can tell, it implies one of two things -- an
either/or situation. To believe that this George Hammond guy *has*
actually received messages from a Dead Maharishi, Jerry would have to
believe that either 1) Maharishi's teaching on this subject (which he
had parroted many times) was WRONG, or 2) that the teaching might be
correct, but that means that Maharishi was never enlightened.
If any of you out there are actually in touch with Jerry, ask him to
resolve this WTF quandary for me.
I mean, I could understand someone who has never spent any time around
Maharishi or never even met him (like Jim, Judy, or Lawson) not
knowing what Maharishi's teachings were about the impossibility of
individuality after death in CC. But Jerry? I've heard him parrot
those teachings, and in that "I *know* the Truth so you *really*
should believe me" tone of voice he used to use in lectures.
So if he is willing to entertain even the *possibility* that these
"messages" really come from a now-dead Maharishi who still has
individuality, what does that imply about what he (Jerry) now
believes? Was the teaching wrong, or was it right, and Maharishi just
never enlightened?
