---In [email protected], <[email protected]> wrote :
When MMY started on his "give me that old time Veda, give me that old time Veda" routine to help return India to an ancient theocracy, etc., I really thought he was missing the whole point of his programs. Veda had its chance and it obviously blew it because poor old Bharat got conquered... a lot. I guess too many Brahmans were off the program or something. Anyway, I always thought that what was really going on is that Veda is infinitely creative and resourceful and always unfolding to each new situation. I kept thinking that MMY is missing this. Going backwards to what India once had with its Caste System, etc., was and would be a great source of suffering in the world and anti-evolutionary. They way I was seeing the world, thanks to TM and the TM Sidhi programs, was that the world needed to move more FORWARD towards science, real science and that "through" the window of science" we would see the efficacy of meditation in our personal life and in society. Through science we would dump what was anit-evolutionary and causes suffering. There is and was too much room for abuse in a theocratically controlled society because there are no checks and balances. It's all "my Vedic way or the highway" and " you can't cognize what I cognize, so take my word for it." My feeling is that world will write a new Mandala. The best protection of India's Vedic traditions is a secular government. It allows the market place of ideas and spirits to rise up to their populace for selection. It allows for balance and for an airing out of frauds who would otherwise hide in some bureacracy somewhere. We all have been hearing over the decades about the cluster-fuck at Jyotir Math with SBS passed on and his succession was contentious. Image that on a national scale with nuclear weapons and armies in the hands of a theocracy. Show me a benign Vedic dictator and I'll show you a blind Vedic subject following him. Don't get me wrong. I love MMY and having been a meditator going on 39 years, with nothing but praise for my technique. I think it does many good things. Government isn't one of them. Dear ultrarishi, I think that your post is a worthwhile one. Especially for analyzing what is going on here. This Thread started with Rick trying to provoke contention with a snip from a book. OK, Rick likes to be contentious, just look at ffl or the smorgasboard offering at Batgap. That I can correct for. Now, Rick incites and you bite. That is human nature. Once inflamed passions run wild. You prove your objectivity with: "I love MMY and having been a meditator going on 39 years, with nothing but praise for my technique. I think it does many good things.". How do you reconcile that with your other 'thoughts'?: "I really thought he was missing the whole point of his programs." "Anyway, I always thought that what was really going on is that Veda is infinitely creative and resourceful and always unfolding to each new situation. I kept thinking that MMY is missing this."Maharishi has not missed either of these points. The are his Programs. He is the Veda. I'd explain more, but I'm not sure of your level of understanding. Please let me know. P.S. Pointing out how screwed up things are, i.e. Joytir Math succession, Bharat vanquished is not an argument for Maharishi's failures, but a strong endorsement of his Programs.
