--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Robert Gimbel" > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > When the newly fertilized egg, attaches to the uterus, > > > > > > In order to be aborted, the procedure requires, sucking, > and > > > > > > tearing it from the womb. > > > > > > Many times, woman who use abortion, as a means to birth > > > control, > > > > > > can so damage their wombs, that they can bleed to death. > > > > > > > > > > Only if they're forced to do it themselves with a > > > > > coat hanger, or have some quack do it on a kitchen > > > > > table because safe medical abortion isn't available. > > > > > > > > > > First-trimester abortion is *significantly* safer, > > > > > if done in a medical facility by a competent > > > > > physician, than bringing the fetus to term and > > > > > giving birth--especially for younger women. > > > > > > > > > > > Abortion is violent, on all levels; physical, mental, > > emotional > > > > and > > > > > > spiritual... > > > > > > > > > > So is *birth*, for pete's sake. > > > > > > > > Virtually everything in life has a "violent" component, Judy. > > > > > > > > Shiva the destroyer is everywhere: when the red petals of the > > rose > > > > bloom the bud covering has to be "violently" extinguished to > > make > > > > room for the beautiful petals. > > > > > > > > So it is disingenious of you to cite birth as a "violent" act. > > If > > > > birth is "violent" then virtually everything in the universe > is, > > > > too. > > > > > > My point, of course, is that abortion is no *more* > > > violent than birth, > > > > Oh, really? > > > > Uh, gee, in one instance the result is the snuffing out of a > > POTENTIAL human life (a "god" who is recreated in man's image with > > every human birth); and, in the other instance a human life results. > > > > Yeah, very similar. > > And now you're disingenuously conflating the outcome > with the process. > > As to a human life being a recreation of god, it's a pretty > lame god who couldn't salvage his/her image from a piece > of unwanted tissue and put it in a piece of tissue that > would be treasured. > **** It is interesting and illuminating to see how the very young children see on the issue of birth and death. Our family got into a car accident in 1980. Nothing happened to our sons, but I hurt my neck rather badly and got also a tiny fracture in it. When I told my kids that mom could have died in that accident, the younger one, who was two years old at that time, said to me with a serious look in his face: "Then I would have to wait until mom gets born again". With that the issue was finished for his part.
I had not been discussing with the kids about the idea of rebirth earlier. Irmeli ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
