On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 9:08 AM, salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > > > > > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote : > > I think what you are saying is that there phenomena that we may have > considered to be impossible, until they are demonstrated, and supported by > heretofore unknown laws of physics. > > It would depend on whether the "new" laws are in contradiction of the old. > Especially in the case of metabolism and energy transfer. These things are > well understood and the idea that it's possible to circumvent them with a > hitherto unknown gland in the brain that produces a nectar that fulfills > all our dietary requirements including water and without any energy input > in itself is miraculous. And I mean it, a miracle is when the laws of > nature are broken. This would be as good as any other law being broken > including levitation or invisibility. > > Given that there are plenty of ways he could be cheating I know where I'm > going to put my money. > > There are many examples, and could one day explain human levitation if it > is demonstrated. > > The below isn't one of them I'm afraid as there is nothing unusual or > contrary about it other than it appears counter to our expectations drawn > from the sort of things we usually run into. Supercooled helium isn't a > day-to-day occurrence and it isn't defeating gravity in any way. Nor has > anything else anyone has ever come across, apart from anecdotally and what > are we to make of that? > > If I am not mistaken there are many demonstrations of water flowing > uphill, in accordance with the laws of physics. So, if you are asking for > an example, you have one. > > Superfluid helium <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z6UJbwxBZI> > [image: image] <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z6UJbwxBZI> > Superfluid helium <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z6UJbwxBZI> > Helium becomes superfluid and displays amazing properties. To address all > the comments about helium "running out": Most helium on earth is the result > of r... > View on www.youtube.com <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z6UJbwxBZI> > Preview by Yahoo > > > > As far the breatharian, you simply dismiss it has "hogwash", and that > because it didn't cause a global sensation, it must be a fraud. Or that you > didn't like a paragraph in the possible explanation. > > > I didn't use the word hogwash, bullshit would be closer to it anyway. This > guy in Australia was caught out, there was no magic going on. I don't know > why people not eating would be a sign of anything great anyway, it's the > sort of thing I'd avoid in a guru. I like my chips and gravy too much to be > impressed by thinness. But the lure of magic is enough for a lot of people > I suppose, it's always interested me, I'm an eternal optimist but becoming > rather sceptical these days. > > > I suppose you could say that for any result that you don't like. "It > didn't pass my threshold for credibility. The study was corrupted" > > > A corrupt study is always a possibility, conversely we shouldn't accept > potentially corrupt information just because the claimed result gives > succour to our cherished beliefs, not if we are interested in truth anyway. > > > Having a threshold of credibility is a good plan, it means you have a > handy way of weeding out the bullshit at the start but it shouldn't be so > rigid that you become blinkered. What you need is a good working knowledge > about something before you consider contrary evidence. We can always be > wrong but the discovery of a chakra - whatever that means- in the brain > that creates nectar of this usefulness (or at all) would be a major > discovery. Let's hope for the diet industry's sake if no one elses that > this guy has broken the laws of conservation of energy, as well as a few > others. > > > I'll bet good money that he hasn't though... > > So, how much would you be willing to wager on Barry's levitation witness claim? > > > > Personally, I don't care if the guy can survive without food or not. It > "appeared" to me to be a vetted result. Perhaps I am mistaken. > > > Btw, look at what people in general are fascinated by. It really isn't > something like this. It's more about what is the latest instagram photo > posted by KK. > > > People in general may like KK but she isn't defying the laws of nature, > even though her arse appears to be stretching them sometimes. > > > Go figure. > > > > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : > > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote : > > I am wondering if this will generate any comments from the "no such thing > as woo woo contingent" here. > > Of course it will. > > I happened to also be thinking about all the weird phenomenon that exists, > all according the laws of physic, albeit, laws not typically seen. > > I think it was Ann who post the video showing some of that weird > phenomena. > > So, why not human levitation? You may say it defies the laws of physics, > but so would most of that weird phenomena, at least apparantly. > > Nothing in that video showed a breach of the laws of physics, I didn't > even realise that was the intention of it (if that's what it was). It was > selection of the sort of cool but invisible laws that underlie our world, > nothing spooky about it - once you know what the laws are. > > Gravity is currently understood to be, not a force but an effect of how > mass affects space and time. All things are in motion and following a > straight path unless acted upon, the presence of any object bends light > (and everything else) around itself by pulling space/time into a curve. > Gravity causes us to fall towards the centre of the Earth, we aren't pulled > there. I eagerly await a demonstration of a way to reverse that apparently > inescapable phenomena. > > Cue Willytex.... > > But this guy was studied for fifteen days, under the surveillance of > cameras. > > Oh, like no one else ever has! Some "breatharian" was observed for ages > but it was a journalist who discovered him sneaking off to the kitchen for > a chicken sandwich in the middle of the night. > > His explanation: Nectar that flows through a hole in his palate. > > What explanation from those who would typically poo poo this type of thing > due to lack of evidence? > > Was the nectar studied? Or even extracted? If it was you would expect it > to be front page news everywhere as it could be synthesised and, hey > presto! World hunger is cured but the doctor in the video didn't mention > it. What sort of process would replace the cells in his body as they died, > with no nutrition coming in? Where does the energy come from to maintain > mental functions like consciousness let alone just walking around for 70 > years? Without a transfer of energy from food coming in from outside the > body doesn't work, even this "nectar" must have some sort of physical > origin. > > Sentences like this: > > This sounds crazy, but let’s think about it for a minute. What do we need > from food? The minerals, which are made out of molecules, which are made > out of atoms, which are made out of quarks, which are made out of > superstrings, which is ultimately part of the Unified Field or Superstring > Field. At a fundamental level of nature, nutrition is really just > vibrating strings of non-local energy. Could he somehow be receiving this > information somehow without the need to physically ingest food? > > > > This is the sort of drivel that infests the internet, I get a ton of it my > FB inbox every morning but an occasional reader who may just have seen > these words on TV or in a newspaper might think there is some sort of > reasoned justification going on here. But there isn't. > > > File under Cargo Cult. > > > Some people will believe anything and look for justification instead of > explanation. > > > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : > > Holy Man Claims He Has Not Eaten Or Drank Anything In 70 Years! > <http://www.spiritscienceandmetaphysics.com/holy-man-claims-he-has-not-eaten-or-drank-anything-in-70-years/> > [image: image] > <http://www.spiritscienceandmetaphysics.com/holy-man-claims-he-has-not-eaten-or-drank-anything-in-70-years/> > Holy Man Claims He Has Not Eaten Or Drank Anything I... > <http://www.spiritscienceandmetaphysics.com/holy-man-claims-he-has-not-eaten-or-drank-anything-in-70-years/> > What is the longest you have went without a piece of food or a glass of > water? A holy man in India claims that he has not eaten or drank anything > for 70 years! Pr... > View on www.spiritsciencean... > <http://www.spiritscienceandmetaphysics.com/holy-man-claims-he-has-not-eaten-or-drank-anything-in-70-years/> > Preview by Yahoo > > > > > > > >
