---In [email protected], <[email protected]> wrote :
Throughout my life, every now and then, I have "heard" a voice (never the same voice twice) inside my head. I have always immediately known that the "sound" was from inside, not outside, so I always have seen this as a kind of awake-dream-thingie. (About once a year, something will happen in a flash, and then nothing.) No, I have never sustained any conversations with suchlike, but, YES, I can accept that other nervous systems also have this ability and that some folks got this to the max. But, geeze o pete, I pity those folks, cuz I 100% know that experiences I have had were very convincing -- the voices truly seem to be from another mind. I would be out there publishing books etc. too, if I had this happen to me in any sustained fashion. Yep. I. Would. I once had my dead mother's voice simply say the nickname she called me. BAM -- just my name spoken in her voice as if she was next to me. Nothing after that, but see? Once at teacher training, in a semi-dreamy state, I had a voice say, "That's all that you can transcend? Here's what I can do." And then, I DIVED INTO THE GOLDEN LIGHT OF PURE BLISS.....for about 30 seconds and nary another visit from "that guy." Truth: everyone has nightly dreams that contain astoundingly detailed scenarios with characters fully blown, furniture, clothing, weather, etc. We're all producing the equivalent of full scale Hollywood productions.....every single night. So channeling? Pish tosh! ANYONE CAN AND DOES DO THIS SHIT EVERY NIGHT...so how much notice should a "daytime dreamer" get? Answer: Not much. Anyone who's known Maharishi CAN DREAM ABOUT MAHARISHI. Now, show me a five year old kid from a jungle tribe in Brazil who convincingly channels Maharishi, and I will pay much more attention. Exactly but it will give conniptions to people who really believe in this stuff and it isn't like John Hagelin can say it's all rubbish, just look at the crap he's been arguing for the existence of over the years. How many steps away is it? But I'm really interested in all this. I've never had a "voice" like this in my head, mine are always me. I think what you are talking about here is very common though and it isn't like it's schizophrenic because there isn't the blurring of reality that psychotic people get. Ever heard of a book called "The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind"? It's a bit of an odd classic of psychology, written by a chap called Julian Jaynes. His basic argument is that modern consciousness has only arrived recently and before about 1000BC people were very different and society was organised by hallucinatory visions that we thought came from Gods or dead relatives but really came from the other hemisphere of our brains. I'm trying to encapsulate a thousand page book into a few paragraphs but he does go into the literature, rituals and art of ancient people in some depth and combines it with knowledge of mental illness and auditory hallucinations, which is the bit that's pertinent to us. He considers these inner voices to be remnants of how people were before the emergence of the modern mind. Bicameral means twin-chambered and we literally didn't know that our brains operated as being far more separate than they do now and our Gods were within us. Ever seen those South American and Mesopotamian tribes that preserved their dead relatives and carried them around? When explorers first reached them they asked what they were for and the natives said they were telling them what to do. They meant it literally. So many cultures had cities built round giant statues of Gods that told them what to do, all this stopped at about the same time that literature like the old and new testament switched from people having no inner dialogue or awareness and taking all instructions from Gods to more inner soul based writings. Some Babylonian writings actually document the sorry state of people whom the Gods have forsaken. So much makes sense when you grasp the theory, and it's hard to look at the ancient world (or the modern one) in the same way. But is it all just fanciful thinking and interpreting old art through a modern theory which is incorrect but can't be contradicted? Julian Jaynes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Jaynes Julian Jaynes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Jaynes Julian Jaynes (February 27, 1920 – November 21, 1997) was an American psychologist, best known for his book The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind (1976), in which he argued that ancient peoples were not conscious. View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Jaynes Preview by Yahoo
