--- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], Bhairitu > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Even if the seeker is looking for the meaning of > > life a good guru > > guides > > > not controls. He shows the way instead of forcing > > it. The > > student has > > > to see from the teaching and of course the student > > can fail too. > > > > OK. I am a firm believer though others may disagree > > that we get > > whatever we need, and if we want a good teacher and > > are persistent > > we will find one. And if we really want > > enlightenment, we get it. > > > > The confusion for the West comes in because our > > technology teaches > > us that results can be instantaneous, with minimal > > effort and focus > > on our part (e.g. the difference between taking an > > ox cart vs a jet > > plane from NYC to Chicago). > > > > So when we begin seeking for enlightenment, nearly > > anyone saying the > > right stuff will convince us, for a little while > > anyway, that they > > have the answer. > > > > The trick is to avoid getting discouraged and > > declaring the whole > > concept is crap, or settling for much less and > > moodmaking, and > > instead, being absolutely persistent in reaching the > > goal of > > liberation, which whether one is in heaven or hell, > > can be achieved. > > As you imply, you need to hold onto the original > intent and see beyond a particular guru or movement. > You sincerely commit yourself to a spiritual teaching > and if after an honesty length of time following the > teaching you get no or minimal results, it's time to > move on. I always think of Buddha doing this with, I > believe, two gurus he studied with. He found that > their teaching, for him, was not enough and he stayed > true to his original intent of seeking liberation. And > we know the rest of the story. >
One of the most enjoyable benefits of persevering in the desire for liberation is that where once there was one teacher who had 'the answer', once that phase is transcended, literally all of life's experiences take on that same profound quality. Not all that different from first going to school to learn a skill, and then graduating to integrating the skill into every facet of our lives; having it come alive. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
