It is often the TM obsessors, who are unable to abide differences of opinion.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote : Steve, of course the fact that TMers disagree with one another proves that we're not in a cult. (-: On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 10:03 AM, "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote: what you miss Michael is the ability to get into one anothers face when we see fit. it's called discussing things, even with an edge. MIchaels version of discussion: "Wait, what? You disagree? Why you are just a TB, Cult Apologist, Sycophant". Work on Michael. After a while you may get it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote : Don't you just love it when the Marshy sycophants fight each other? From: danfriedman2002 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 9:05 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry email to John sent on Sunday ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote : Jesus Dan, Inappropriate Greeting, Steve Let it go. This ain't no big deal. It ain't. I understand that you are claiming that This ain't no big deal to you (although I do notice you are posting quite a lot about it), but it is to me. So now, take a deep breath and JUST STOP TELLING ME TO Let it go I will continue to run my life, as you should too. Ann has a perfectly balanced perspective on the whole thing. Whatttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt???????????????????? I guess that's Been Decided. Lay off already! Is that your best?: Lay off already! That is your what, moral stance, intellectual argument, humanistic position? Ann asked why we were disagreeing. I respect Ann enough to honestly discuss our differences. Unlike the ffl Dialogue that is intended to incite flares. Hurling at me won't 'just do it', Steve. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <fleetwood_macncheese@...> wrote : Hi Ann, Your exchange with Dan is interesting - Perhaps the hierarchy thing is easier to understand, from business experience, where communications have more, or less, restrictions, placed on them, intentionally. Despite the way the TMO is portrayed here, and even my own experiences within it, there remains a functioning organization, in all of that, whose purpose it is, to propagate TM. No doubt there is a lot of executive communication that occurs privately, and necessarily so. Complete transparency would not work, any more than it would for General Motors. I am not advocating complete secrecy, either, but a middle ground is there, somewhere. Hey Mac, always nice to chat and weigh in with you. I understand the hierarchy business and yet the use of hierarchy can also be used negatively - as a way of excluding in order to have power over. I don't know for sure if this is what the Movement does in general or if Hagelin is using his recent letter addressed to all Certified Governors in this way or not. What I do know is that the letter does not seem to reveal anything about what Hagelin feels that the common man or woman couldn't or shouldn't need to know if they are at all interested in pursuing what this George guy has to say in the context of his message from the deceased MMY. Frankly, I have no interest in any messages through George but the mood and tone of the November gathering might be what is most interesting - the medium vs the message. Because I don't see that the material contained in Hagelin's letter is anything but benign I don't understand the need to exclude others from reading it but, hey, that's just me. John Hagelin wrote: "Private and confidential for Certified Governors on top. Is it that you don't know what "Private" means? Or is it that you don't understand the concept of "confidential", or, let me take a wild guess: YOU ARE A CERTIFIED GOVERNOR. On the other hand, I know how hierarchies work and they are necessary in many cases but not for the reason of making others feel less important or less able to process a message. Hierarchies are there to preserve order and structure and I have no problem with that as long as they are not a way to practice the worst kind of exclusivity. ARE YOU INTENTIONALLY NOT UNDERSTANDING THE MEANING OF "PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL FOR CERTIFIED GOVERNORS" OR IS IT MORE? Ann? As fleet might write: Ann, would you consider stealing a look at any other scientists work?