---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <anartaxius@...> wrote :

 But CC really isn't enlightenment, it's just 'glorified ignorance' as M said. 
It's not bad. You get inner wakefulness and silence along with a deluded mind. 
So this paper is not about enlightened people. Kinda is, Fourth State and Fifth 
State count for somethin.It's about people who have a certain degree of opening 
to spiritual experience, but far short of the goal. Not tooooooooooooo shabby? 
Fred's problem (?) is he does not have access to currently used 
state-of-the-art equipment in the study of consciousness, and even if he did, 
he probably would not be allowed by the TMO to use it (fMRI for example) as I'm 
sure you'd know, and he is probably under some other research restrictions as 
well proly?, as he likely would be booted if he published any negative results 
likely sooooooooooo?. 

 Fred: 'The experience of Transcendental Consciousness transcends language and 
provides a platform for experiencing the world more with re[s]pect to inner 
abstract structures and less with respect to outer, changing concrete objects. 
This experience of Transcendental Consciousness is not a luxury and should not 
be isolated to a few individuals transcending during meditation practice. 
Rather, the experience of Transcendental Consciousness should be available to 
everyone to allow them to realize their full human birthright.'
 

 He did not even mention CC in his conclusion (above) either. I guess he knew 
you had him figered.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <LEnglish5@...> wrote :

 Fred Travis published research on enlightened people. 

 This review paper looks at the research:
 

 Transcendental experiences during meditation practice - Travis - 2013 - Annals 
of the New York Academy of Sciences - Wiley Online Library 
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/nyas.12316/full 
 
 Transcendental experiences during meditation practice - Travis - 2013 - Annals 
of the New Yor... http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/nyas.12316/full 1 
Shear, J. 2006. The Experience of Meditation: Experts Introduce the Major 
Traditions. Princeton, NJ: The Infinity Foundation. 2 Travis, F. & J. Shear.


 
 View on onlinelibrary.wiley.com 
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/nyas.12316/full
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 Fred is doing new research on people in CC and will be using more 
sophisticated EEG analysis, and possibly other measures as well.
 

 

 L
 

 






  


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