On 10/8/2014 1:15 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
Of course TM doesn't handle these issues, but Marshy and the Movement
claim they do, and when you add in the ridiculous adjunct programs
like yagya and all the Indian nostrums
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the TMO sells, they claim they got a lock on perfect everything for
the individual and society. That is one of the reasons they are so
despicable, they prey on people's weaknesses and their hope for a
better life.
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*From:* "lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 8, 2014 1:16 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting
Underage Girl
Perhaps TM and TMSP DID help him, but TM is an anti-stress practice.
There's no reason (other than Maharishi's most extreme rhetoric) to
assume that, in any finite amount of time (at least), it will affect
non-stress-related behavioral and health-related issues.
Now, you can make the case that virtually every dysfunctional behavior
is stress-related to a certain extent, but obviously in Collin's case,
TM and TMSP weren't sufficient to change his behavior.
After 40 years of TM and 30 years of TMSP, I've found that some of my
issues havent' been handled adequately either.
OTOH, I've tried western-style therapy and medication for 20 years
also, and still have problems.
L
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote :
The thing is, both Collins and the TMO have hyped his practice of TM
and TMSP as that which keeps him on a even keel in the entertainment
world - they make big claims for his practice doing all kinds of stuff
for him.
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*From:* "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 8, 2014 11:01 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting
Underage Girl
Michael, certainly I have been exposed to the TMO more than most
people. I've been in FF for 26 years and lived on campus for the first
14 of those years. I earned both an MA in SCI and an MS in psychology
from MUM. During that time I took relationship workshops because I
realized that I needed specific knowledge about successfully
navigating that often complicated area of life.
In large part I left campus 12 years ago because I realized that I had
"issues" and that I needed to deal with them with expert help. Maybe
I'm just more practical than Stephen Collins! But in almost 40 years,
I have only missed between 5 and 10 meditations. And that was due to
illness or traveling. And includes the 7 years when I did not have
contact with MUM or the TMO. I did my TMSP at home.
We don't really know any details about Stephen's TMSP practice. Thus
to draw conclusions is not really useful.
I see the TMO as part of a world that is constantly evolving. And
recently, I see the TMO itself evolving.
Take the best and leave the rest!
On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 9:45 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackson74@...
[FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Perhaps that TM is a technique that can be of great benefit to some,
and, on its own, not to others.
I agree that may be true for some, the problem is that the Old Fraud
and his organization, the Movement have always make outrageous
unsupportable claims for the efficacy and benefits of of TM for
EVERYONE. This gives people who know nothing about TM unreasonable
expectations and sets them up for disappointment on many levels.
If one reads and listens to the hype about TM and TMSP the existence
of a mental/emotional state that would lead one to be a child molester
should not be possible in someone who has done TMSP for decades. Yet
it happens. If the TMO billed TM for what it actually is, instead of
what they claim for it, I would never say a word.
It is the fraud, the lies and the misuse of people that makes the TMO
a fundamentally corrupt and disgusting organization.
And the meditation itself is mediocre - it is not the superlative
better than any other technique, superior to all others the Movement
does and Marshy did claim that it is.
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*From:* "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 8, 2014 10:18 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting
Underage Girl
Good day lurking reporters, yes Stephen Collins, who has molested
children, has been a TM advocate. So too has Father Gabriel Mejia been
a TM advocate. And he has rescued hundreds of Columbian street
children with TM central to his efforts.
What reasonable conclusions can be drawn from these opposite stories?
Perhaps that TM is a technique that can be of great benefit to some,
and, on its own, not to others.
From my own experience I'd say that TM is necessary for full
psychological development. But in some cases, it is not sufficient.
Nor is TM sufficient to heal a toothache. Or a broken finger. Or a
floundering marriage.
Again, in my own experience, I'd say TM is perfect for preparing the
ground for healing. And I think of it as my only spiritual practice.
What I do to deal with my Attachment Disorder, those I think of as my
healing modalities. They are complementary to my TM practice. But they
could never replace it.
On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 2:04 AM, "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@...
[FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
*From:* "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 7, 2014 9:59 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting
Underage Girl
And where are the TM apologists here on FFL on this revelation? Deadly
silent!
They have shifted into "shoot the messenger" mode. There is, after
all, *nothing* they can say to "apologize away" one of the TMO's
superstars being investigated for child molestation. So since they
can't excuse it away, they'll try to distract from it by attacking you
and anyone else who brings it up.
Hadn't you noticed this trend? All of the lurking reporters have.
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*From:* wgm4u <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 7, 2014 3:16 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting
Underage Girl
Huh? I thought TM *automatically* made one a better person...in just a
few years no less! Gee, maybe MMY was, shall we say, *embellishing*
the supposed benefits? More hyperbole from the great one I guess!
Today Stephen Collins, tomorrow, Raja Roger Ram? (and this is the
highest teaching on the planet?)
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Stephen Collins, who played minister and family man the Rev. Eric
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molested an underage girl and exposed himself to two others, prompting
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