Barry, You've just shown in this post that you are a Believer of whatever it is you think is right. But you really have not proved that you are correct in your own belief. Yet, you go on criticizing others for what you think is contrary to your belief.
What's your deal, dude? I think we have a good example of hypocrisy here in your taunts against those who don't agree with you. It is also possible that you are a fundamentalist parading around as a non-theist--using your own nomenclature--or whatever best describes your agenda. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote : Sometimes I think that Maharishi's "greatest accomplishment" should be listed as having taken so many at-one-time-fairly-intelligent people and, over time, turned them into weak-minded, gullible idiots like jr_esq, Share, srijau, Lawson, and others we see from time to time here on FFL. These people will believe *anything* if 1) they're told that Maharishi or some other Seller Of Woo Woo believed in it, and 2) it makes them feel more self-important and 'special' for believing it. The stuff they believe doesn't need to be reasonable, it doesn't need to follow the laws of physics or chemistry, and it doesn't depend on any kind of evidence. In fact, when presented with evidence that proves their belief to be nonsense, they believe even more strongly. Truly an accomplishment... From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 8:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Aliens too Distant for Contact? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <jr_esq@...> wrote : Salyavin, If you believe that the universe is based in consciousness, I don't. That's the problem, just "believing" stuff about the universe and hoping you can find enough things to justify beliefs you have already decided are true without any evidence is no way to go about learning what's going on. The idea that thoughts are entangled quantumly with the rest of the universe is nonsense, classical information - that which can distinguish one thing from another - cannot get entangled and therefore can't be transmitted. then our thoughts are somehow "entangled" in a quantum sense with the rest of the universe. So, it is possible to communicate telepathically with other sentient beings instantaneously in our galaxy or with the rest of the universe. I'm sure that if it was possible we'd be able to do it here, probably wouldn't even need this internet thingy in the way. As it is we appear separate from each other. There used to be a question similar to the following: if a tree fell in a forest of an earth-like planet 1,000 light years away from us, would it make a sound? My answer is yes, because consciousnes is present there and everywhere else in the universe. And, somehow our own consciousness is linked--or entangled--with that universel consciousness. I think you'll find that sound is pressure waves in the atmosphere, sure it needs our consciousness to interpret what is going on but it will make whatever sound it makes whether anyone is there or not. Or whether the universe is conscious or not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <jr_esq@...> wrote : S3, That's a good question. We may not get any message back at all since the radio waves are relatively slow in comparison to the large distances involved in the scale of the Milky Way and the entire universe. Also, the earth-like planets near us may not have any advanced civilizations like ours. Or, that their living beings are still in the microbial, plant or animal stages. My point is that, if there are any advanced human-like civilizations in the Milk Way, they would be communicating with us telepathically or through lucid dreams. For example, a few years ago, there was a psychic here on FFL who posted that he was able to communicate telepathically with another being from the Pleaides star system. I believe Rick knows the guy who also lives in Fairfield, Iowa. OK, the first problem is: why would telepathic waves travel faster than light? Or rather, how could they travel faster than light? And that's forgetting the obvious question of brains being not all that strong compared to, say, Jodrell bank radio telescope! So the send/receive function is going to be a bit limited. The other big problem is that the Pleaides system is pretty much the last place you will find life in our galaxy, a bunch of very young white-hot supergiant stars. Life of any organic type aint happening there, or anywhere close. That's typical of science, always spoiling people's fun. UFO contactees used to say they'd met beings from Venus or Mars until the harsh reality of the climate on those worlds drove their imaginary aliens away to the outer planets first and then on to more distant star systems. Not sure why the Pleaides got chosen as a home for the Space Brothers. They do look nice though, especially through a telescope as you can still see the blue nebulae that the stars formed out of. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <s3raphita@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <jr_esq@...> wrote : Yes, probably so, if the means of communication is through light or radio waves. I enjoyed that moment in the movie Contact where the first TV signal that aliens would have received from Earth was Hitler's speech at the 1936 Olympics. The idea has since been dismissed by scientists as it seems that the transmission signal was very low powered so is unlikely to be picked out amongst all the background radiation in space. But what will their first Earth TV signal be? I Love Lucy? Baywatch? American Idol? Perhaps the best hope is that it's some global warming/ecological doom-laden documentary so that the aliens conclude it's not worth wasting time invading our dying planet. As such, the speed of communication is limited by the speed of light. But it is theoretically possible to contact ETs through telepathic means or lucid dreaming. Why? Because consciousness pervades the entire universe. So, communication through consciousness is faster than the speed of light. IMO, the Srimad Bhagavatam has given us clues of this type of communication in the story relating to Urvasi, the heavenly apsara. She supposedly can be found taking a bath in the region near the Pleiades, which is placed in beginning degrees of Taurus. From my experience, everyone--perhaps, more so for males--can see Urvasi through lucid dreaming when the Moon is transiting the 3rd quarter of Krittika nakshatra. She appears as a beautiful female during a dream.