Duveyoung posted a video of Ken O’keefe, and I followed up watching another 
O’keefe video on 9/11. Bhairitu posted a number of  points on 9/11 assumptions. 
 
 

 Not having looked at 9/11 for some time, and knowing the government has 
deceived, mischaracterized, hid. distorted and fabricated many events and 
points about the Middle East,  I researched further to find substantiation of 
these points and/or alternative views. . 
 

 Here is a summary of points that I have thus far found.  As of yet, I don't 
hold any of the points or counterpoints as conclusive.  For my own education, I 
will continue to investigate – and add clarifications and corrections to the 
following list when warranted. And add more points as they arise.
  
 I welcome anyone interested in a rational discussion of these points and 
counter points, as well as further credible evidence that sheds light on the US 
and foreign governments’ and any parties involved in the actual events or 
possible distortion of facts and cover-up. I have no agenda other than gaining 
a better understanding of what lies beneath the surface of conventional wisdom. 
  
  
  
 Q1) Would Boeing 767 jet airliners flying  into the WTC have the same 
destructive impact as a propeller B-25 flying into the Empire State Building? 
 Construction:
 ·         The Empire State Building is a heavier, steel-framed structure with 
movement-resisting bolted or riveted connections: such that every joint resists 
bending moments and wind forces and the load from any failed/ damaged columns 
can be redistributed.
 ·         The WTC's steel framed-tube is designed to resist bending from wind. 
 but its core steel columns primarily only support downward loads.
 Size
 ·         A B-25 is twin-engine World War II 
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/World_War_II bomber estimated at 9,750 kg flying 
320 kph.
 ·         A Boeing 767 is around  10 times larger at 90,000 kg flying at twice 
the speed (750 kph- 950 kph). Estimates of the B-25 had 40 million kilojoules 
of kinetic energy on impact while the 767 had 175 3 billion kilojoules, 
 Fuel
 ·         The B-25 was powered by high-octane gasoline and carried far less 
fuel than a 767, fuel by more flammable jet fuel.. 
  
 Q2) Was impact sufficient for the WTC to collapse, or were detonations 
necessary?
  
 ·         The burning temperatures of jet fuel would not itself melt the steel 
support structure of the WTC. The NIST concluded that the WTC’s steel was not 
melted, but rather that it was weakened by the heat, and together with the 
damage caused by the planes' impacts, caused the collapses. .
  
 ·         The buildings fell symmetrically in their own footprints due to 
material fatigue at and above the fire and impact floors causing the upper 
floors to detach and fall through lower undamaged sections. 
  
 ·         It took 50 -100 minutes for the fires to weaken the structure to the 
point that the towers could not resist the energy released by the downward 
movement of the massive top section of the building . 
  
 ·         The NIST concluded that damage to perimeter support columns 
initiated the detachment of the floors at and above the fire and impact floors, 
which subsequently fell into and through the towers. 
  
  
 Q 3) Was WTC-7 demolished by order of the WTC 7’s owner, Larry Silverstein. 
  
 ·         The National Institute of Standards and Technology's (NIST) 2006 
Federal Building and Fire Safety Investigation of the World Trade Center 
Disaster report that the reasons for the WTC 7 collapse include: 1)    debris 
from the collapse of WTC 1, which was 370 feet to the south, ignited fires on 
at least 10 floors in the building at its south and west faces.
  and, 2 the WTC 7 had been seriously compromised by a 20-story gash in one 
corner facing Ground Zero, and by the time the evacuation order was given was 
visibly sagging.
   
 Q 4) Did WTC Owner Larry Silverstein profit from insuring  the Twin Towers 
just prior 9/11?
 ·         Silverstein bought the WTC a year or so before the crash and insured 
them and was paid approximately $4.6 billion after insurance litigation.  
However, the total cost of the towers was around $7 billion or more.
 
 
 Q 5) How did a  plane 125 ft. wide and 155 ft. long  only create 60 ft. wide 
hole when it crashed into the Pentagon.?
 ·         The Pentagon is a reinforced concrete building with blast-resistant 
windows. ·         It was struck by an aluminum-skinned commercial aircraft 
that had already lost a wing before hitting the building. ·         The damage 
is consistent with this scenario. Mete Sozen, a professor of civil engineering 
at Purdue University http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purdue_University: "A 
crashing jet doesn't punch a cartoon-like outline of itself into a reinforced 
concrete building. When Flight 77 hit the Pentagon, one wing hit the ground and 
the other was sheared off by the Pentagon's load-bearing columns. ·         
According to Architecture Week http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArchitectureWeek, 
the reason the Pentagon took relatively little damage from the impact was 
because Wedge One had recently been renovated. (This was part of a renovation 
program which had been begun in the 1980s, and Wedge One was the first of five 
to be renovated.)  
 Q 6) Was the Pentagon was hit by a missile not a 767. 
 ·         An aircraft is known to have gone missing, the wreckage of the same 
aircraft was found at the Pentagon, including the Flight 77's black boxes 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_box, the nose cone, landing gear, an 
airplane tire, and an intact cockpit seat. ·         The remains of passengers 
from Flight 77 were indeed found at the Pentagon crash site and their 
identities confirmed by DNA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA analysis ·         
Many eyewitnesses saw the plane strike the Pentagon. ·         Flight 77 
passengers made phone calls reporting that their airplane had been hijacked. 
Including TV News commentator Barbara Olson who called her husband (U.S. 
Solicitor General Theodore Olson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Olson) 
and said that the flight had been hijacked, and that the hijackers had knives 
and box cutters http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Box_cutters. ·         the damage 
was what structural engineers expected from such a strike. 
 ·         Pentagon security cameras and the Virginia Department of 
Transportation released on May 16, 2006,that shows American Airlines flight 77 
crashing into the Pentagon.  

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