Here are some better questions to answer:
You do realize that the building architects wouldn't have designed for a
WWII B-25 crash don't you? They designed the buildings to withstand at
least a crash from a 707 or bigger aircraft. Interesting that the only
document alluding to the latter was kept in the building and destroyed
NIST? Really? It's a government agency with alleged ties to the NSA.
What dog do you have in this anyway? A check from Langley? :-D
On 10/11/2014 05:39 PM, seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Duveyoung posted a video of Ken O’keefe, and I followed up watching
another O’keefe video on 9/11. Bhairitu posted a number of points on
Not having looked at 9/11 for some time, and knowing the government
has deceived, mischaracterized, hid. distorted and fabricated many
events and points about the Middle East, I researched further to find
substantiation of these points and/or alternative views. .
Here is a summary of points that I have thus far found. As of yet, I
don't hold any of the points or counterpoints as conclusive. For my
own education, I will continue to investigate – and add clarifications
and corrections to the following list when warranted. And add more
points as they arise.
I welcome anyone interested in a rational discussion of these points
and counter points, as well as further credible evidence that sheds
light on the US and foreign governments’ and any parties involved in
the actual events or possible distortion of facts and cover-up. I have
no agenda other than gaining a better understanding of what lies
beneath the surface of conventional wisdom.
*_Q1)_**_Would Boeing 767 jet airliners flying into the WTC have the
same destructive impact as a propeller B-25 flying into the Empire
State Building? _*
·The Empire State Building is a heavier, steel-framed structure with
movement-resisting bolted or riveted connections: such that every
joint resists bending moments and wind forces and the load from any
failed/ damaged columns can be redistributed.
·The WTC's steel framed-tube is designed to resist bending from wind.
but its core steel columns primarily only support downward loads.
·A B-25 is twin-engine World War II
<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/World_War_II> bomber estimated at 9,750
kg flying 320 kph.
·A Boeing 767 is around 10 times larger at 90,000 kg flying at twice
the speed (750 kph- 950 kph). Estimates of the B-25 had 40 million
kilojoules of kinetic energy
<http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Energy#In_physics> on impact while the
767 had 175 3 billion kilojoules,
·The B-25 was powered by high-octane gasoline and carried far less
fuel than a 767, fuel by more flammable jet fuel..
*_Q2) Was impact sufficient for the WTC to collapse, or were
·The burning temperatures of jet fuel would not itself melt the steel
support structure of the WTC. The NIST concluded that the WTC’s steel
was not melted, but rather that it was weakened by the heat, and
together with the damage caused by the planes' impacts, caused the
·The buildings fell symmetrically in their own footprints due to
material fatigue at and above the fire and impact floors causing the
upper floors to detach and fall through lower undamaged sections.
·It took 50 -100 minutes for the fires to weaken the structure to the
point that the towers could not resist the energy released by the
downward movement of the massive top section of the building .
·The NIST concluded that damage to perimeter support columns initiated
the detachment of the floors at and above the fire and impact floors,
which subsequently fell into and through the towers.
*_Q 3) Was WTC-7 demolished by order of the WTC 7’s owner, Larry
·The National Institute of Standards and Technology's (NIST) 2006
Federal Building and Fire Safety Investigation of the World Trade
Center Disaster report that the reasons for the WTC 7 collapse
include: 1) debris from the collapse of WTC 1, which was 370 feet to
the south, ignited fires on at least 10 floors in the building at its
south and west faces.
and, 2 the WTC 7 had been seriously compromised by a 20-story gash in
one corner facing Ground Zero, and by the time the evacuation order
was given was visibly sagging.
*_Q 4) Did WTC Owner Larry Silverstein profit from insuring the Twin
Towers just prior 9/11?_*
·Silverstein bought the WTC a year or so before the crash and insured
them and was paid approximately $4.6 billion after insurance
litigation. However, the total cost of the towers was around $7
billion or more.
*_Q 5) How did a plane 1_**_25 ft. wide and 155 ft. long only create
60 ft. wide hole when it crashed into the Pentagon.?_**__*
·The Pentagon is a reinforced concrete building with
·It was struck by an aluminum-skinned commercial aircraft that
had already lost a wing before hitting the building.
·The damage is consistent with this scenario. Mete Sozen, a
professor of civil engineering atPurdue University
"A crashing jet doesn't punch a cartoon-like outline of itself
into a reinforced concrete building. When Flight 77 hit the
Pentagon, one wing hit the ground and the other was sheared
off by the Pentagon's load-bearing columns.
·According to/Architecture Week/
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArchitectureWeek>, the reason
the Pentagon took relatively little damage from the impact was
because Wedge One had recently been renovated. (This was part
of a renovation program which had been begun in the 1980s, and
Wedge One was the first of five to be renovated.)
*_Q 6) Was the Pentagon was hit by a missile not a 767. _*
·An aircraft is known to have gone missing, the wreckage of
the same aircraft was found at the Pentagon, including the
Flight 77'sblack boxes
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_box>, the nose cone,
landing gear, an airplane tire, and an intact cockpit seat.
·The remains of passengers from Flight 77 were indeed found at
the Pentagon crash site and their identities confirmed byDNA
·Many eyewitnesses saw the plane strike the Pentagon.
·Flight 77 passengers made phone calls reporting that their
airplane had been hijacked. Including TV News commentator
Barbara Olson <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Olson> who
called her husband (U.S. Solicitor GeneralTheodore Olson
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Olson>) and said that
the flight had been hijacked, and that the hijackers hadknives
·the damage was what structural engineers expected from such a
·Pentagon security cameras and the Virginia Department of
Transportation released on May 16, 2006,that shows American
Airlines flight 77 crashing into the Pentagon.