--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > >MMY's
> > > > biggest mistake was, is, and always will be, the Siddhi's 
> program!
> > > >
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Unless you happen to find the Siddhis program of personal use, 
of
> > > course...
> > > 
> > > Yeah, on my siddhi course w/MMY at the end there was this 
> > clamouring 
> > > for people to receive advanced TM techniques from MMY before 
they 
> > > went home.  He laughed derisively at this and said, "i have 
just 
> > > given you the key to the universe and you want advanced 
> techniques?"
> > > 
> > > On that course he gave these great lectures about the patanjali 
> > Yoga 
> > > Sutras and the siddhis.  Really great understanding about how 
you 
> > do 
> > > the siddhis in form.  In the sequence of things i am glad he 
came 
> > > along with this back then.  
> > > You can use the form of Patanjali to all kinds of good end with 
> any 
> > > of the maha vedic mantras or just simple spiritual practice.   
> The 
> > > same kind of patanjalaic description for how you can meditate 
is 
> > > taught with Karunamayi also.  It is not like Patanjali is 
> > tradmarked 
> > > or MMY taught anything new.  He definitely packaged it.  
> > > 
> > > As for the long decline, it was very much in his hands as he 
> > > dismantled the teaching organization back in 1977 that had 
become 
> > so 
> > > effective to that point.  He (MMY) made the decision to 
supplant 
> > the 
> > > whole thing with the chaos of the returning vedic atoms from 
> those 
> > > early TM-siddhi 'governor training' courses (mid & late 70's).  
> It 
> > > was a monumental decision which was very human and all his.  I 
> was 
> > > there and watched him do it.  It was pretty clearly a whim that 
> was 
> > > a bad administrative choice of his.  Yes, he traded the old 
TMorg 
> > as 
> > > a teaching org. for a series of cash cows of what then became 
the 
> > > intervening years of the TMorg.  From then it really became 
about 
> > > real estate and profit-centers for him.  The great teacher?
> > > 
> > > Jai Guru Dev,  -Doug
> > 
> >  
> >  Seems right to me, I don't question his intentions, just his 
> > administrative ability. BTW, I doubt most Siddhas do samyama from 
> the 
> > level of the transcendent, far from it! IMHO. Billyg.
> >
> 
> ANd this is an issue because...?

It goes directly to the effectiveness of the technique!
>






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