--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >MMY's > > > > biggest mistake was, is, and always will be, the Siddhi's > program! > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Unless you happen to find the Siddhis program of personal use, of > > > course... > > > > > > Yeah, on my siddhi course w/MMY at the end there was this > > clamouring > > > for people to receive advanced TM techniques from MMY before they > > > went home. He laughed derisively at this and said, "i have just > > > given you the key to the universe and you want advanced > techniques?" > > > > > > On that course he gave these great lectures about the patanjali > > Yoga > > > Sutras and the siddhis. Really great understanding about how you > > do > > > the siddhis in form. In the sequence of things i am glad he came > > > along with this back then. > > > You can use the form of Patanjali to all kinds of good end with > any > > > of the maha vedic mantras or just simple spiritual practice. > The > > > same kind of patanjalaic description for how you can meditate is > > > taught with Karunamayi also. It is not like Patanjali is > > tradmarked > > > or MMY taught anything new. He definitely packaged it. > > > > > > As for the long decline, it was very much in his hands as he > > > dismantled the teaching organization back in 1977 that had become > > so > > > effective to that point. He (MMY) made the decision to supplant > > the > > > whole thing with the chaos of the returning vedic atoms from > those > > > early TM-siddhi 'governor training' courses (mid & late 70's). > It > > > was a monumental decision which was very human and all his. I > was > > > there and watched him do it. It was pretty clearly a whim that > was > > > a bad administrative choice of his. Yes, he traded the old TMorg > > as > > > a teaching org. for a series of cash cows of what then became the > > > intervening years of the TMorg. From then it really became about > > > real estate and profit-centers for him. The great teacher? > > > > > > Jai Guru Dev, -Doug > > > > > > Seems right to me, I don't question his intentions, just his > > administrative ability. BTW, I doubt most Siddhas do samyama from > the > > level of the transcendent, far from it! IMHO. Billyg. > > > > ANd this is an issue because...?
It goes directly to the effectiveness of the technique! > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/